Bullet head suggestions for a .270 for wild boar

[John Gryphon]

Weight has no bearing on construction

ah but it does as according to manufacturers they make a more stoutly constructed version of the bullet with a thicker copper coat. I read that in my searching there is a lot of stuff to digest, its working ones way through so many conflicting blurbs that is tiring lol. As far as penetration with copper/brass nothing comes close to Woodleigh Hydrostatics

Snippet below is right, shoot bigger game? Shoot heavier bullets is a tried and true formula.


and a 150 grain (9.7 gram) bullet, offering a higher sectional density, which made it suitable for achieving better penetration for large sized deer, such as wapiti, and moose.

 

[Edinburgh Rifles]

ah but it does as according to manufacturers they make a more stoutly constructed version of the bullet with a thicker copper coat. I read that in my searching there is a lot of stuff to digest, its working ones way through so many conflicting blurbs that is tiring lol. As far as penetration with copper/brass nothing comes close to Woodleigh Hydrostatics

Snippet below is right, shoot bigger game? Shoot heavier bullets is a tried and true formula.


and a 150 grain (9.7 gram) bullet, offering a higher sectional density, which made it suitable for achieving better penetration for large sized deer, such as wapiti, and moose.

1970s thinking
Fine if shooting a 416 at cape buffalo

Doesn’t equate with small game and over bore bottle neck cartridges (comparatively big case volume for small calibre)

The 100g .243 is exactly the same discussion
More energy and velocity from an 80gr
Run a monolithic at 3300 and penetrate a Land Rover

Bullet construction is as important a bullet weight when choosing an appropriate pill

Plenty of monolithic and bonded 130gr .270 options
I ran some Swift Scirroco 130gr in .270 once
Those things are solid Kryptonite and will hold together on the knarliest of African Game

 

[John Gryphon]

1970s thinking

yeah right

and will hold together on the knarliest of African Game

the gnarliest Africans as in Cape Buffalo shoulders? Are you saying the .270 130 gr projectile s good to go then....come on Ed the PH wont be amused as he checks both barrels of his double are full lol.

 

[angusb1]

Bullet construction is as important a bullet weight when choosing an appropriate pill

This is absolutely true

 

[Mungo]

yeah right

the gnarliest Africans as in Cape Buffalo shoulders? Are you saying the .270 130 gr projectile s good to go then....come on Ed the PH wont be amused as he checks both barrels of his double are full lol.

A 130gr monolithic doing 3150 or so probably would go through a buffalo. But it would punch a tiny little pinhole and leave you with a very angry buffalo.

I shot a highland x Limousin bull in the head with 130gr copper from a Creedmoor, so only doing 2800fps. 40 yard shot, so not dissimilar to the range you might shoot a buffalo. It went through the top of the skull, out the base of the skull and through 3 cervical vertebrae before veering off. It was an absolute eye opener.

I think the reason people use big bullets when shooting dangerous game is not just penetration but the need to make the biggest hole possible. A boar is not a buffalo - a .270 sized hole is enough.

 

[angusb1]

It's always a balance between how much penetration you need for a given situation and how much expansion you need to impart energy. Factors such as the total amount of energy in the bullet at impact, it's sectional density, meplat, frangibility, toughness and hardness all play a part, hence why bullet construction is so important. There are times when you don't want to completely obliterate what you're shooting at and times when you want to make the biggest exit wound possible, it depends on the situation. I prefer a 150gr interlock in my .270 because it will knock down the largest game the UK has to offer whilst not obliterating a muntjac. This works for me because I want to use a single rifle/scope/bullet/load which can cover all UK game. I don't only have one rifle but my .270 is the one rifle I want to be able to do anything in the UK with and this combo is my compromise for that. I also just bought a 35 Whelen which I plan to use on large red deer in Devon this coming season which I will use with 225gr Gamekings at around 2800fps at ranges of up to 100m. I expect it to work better than the 150gr interlocks from my .270 but I wouldn't necessarily take it to the highlands and attempt to shoot reds at 250m with it as it will have a scope better suited to short range woodland stalking and the bullet drop and wind drift would be worse than the .270 at that range. Horses for courses. If I weren't shooting muntjac with the .270 and mainly shot red deer or boar I would probably use a 130gr bullet because as @Mungo and @Edinburgh Rifles rifles rightly say it has more energy than the 150gr.

 

[John Gryphon]

Choose one lol.

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[Tim.243]

It's always a balance between how much penetration you need for a given situation and how much expansion you need to impart energy. Factors such as the total amount of energy in the bullet at impact, it's sectional density, meplat, frangibility, toughness and hardness all play a part, hence why bullet construction is so important. There are times when you don't want to completely obliterate what you're shooting at and times when you want to make the biggest exit wound possible, it depends on the situation. I prefer a 150gr interlock in my .270 because it will knock down the largest game the UK has to offer whilst not obliterating a muntjac. This works for me because I want to use a single rifle/scope/bullet/load which can cover all UK game. I don't only have one rifle but my .270 is the one rifle I want to be able to do anything in the UK with and this combo is my compromise for that. I also just bought a 35 Whelen which I plan to use on large red deer in Devon this coming season which I will use with 225gr Gamekings at around 2800fps at ranges of up to 100m. I expect it to work better than the 150gr interlocks from my .270 but I wouldn't necessarily take it to the highlands and attempt to shoot reds at 250m with it as it will have a scope better suited to short range woodland stalking and the bullet drop and wind drift would be worse than the .270 at that range. Horses for courses. If I weren't shooting muntjac with the .270 and mainly shot red deer or boar I would probably use a 130gr bullet because as @Mungo and @Edinburgh Rifles rifles rightly say it has more energy than the 150gr.

I work on the basis you need to plan for further out so 100 the plan would 200 150 then 250.
Shot a big red hind free hand about 40 yds she ran a 100 more yards, stood wobbling then fell over but I was ready to put a second in her. Nice big round but I would want to know where it would be if you had one leg it a bit of a way.

 

[Dougal McGuire]

I do a lot of hog hunting here in Texas and have shot quite a few at various ranges with various calibers; my second longest shot was 310 yards with a Tikka 270 and the 130 grain Fusion dropped the adult hog like a rock. Fusions are bonded but still have good expansion I like the forward of shoulder shot aiming for where the spine meets the body, this is the shot espoused by Carpe Sus on Youtube. If there is still movement, another shot is delivered. I think a 150 would be fine if it were required for legal reasons, but if not the 270 was built for 130 grain. There are some 140 and 145 grain options that are appealing for higher BC if you're going to be taking longer, windier shots. I know Fusions are sold in the UK, not sure how abundantly though.

 

[Tim.243]

I do a lot of hog hunting here in Texas and have shot quite a few at various ranges with various calibers; my second longest shot was 310 yards with a Tikka 270 and the 130 grain Fusion dropped the adult hog like a rock. Fusions are bonded but still have good expansion I like the forward of shoulder shot aiming for where the spine meets the body, this is the shot espoused by Carpe Sus on Youtube. If there is still movement, another shot is delivered. I think a 150 would be fine if it were required for legal reasons, but if not the 270 was built for 130 grain. There are some 140 and 145 grain options that are appealing for higher BC if you're going to be taking longer, windier shots. I know Fusions are sold in the UK, not sure how abundantly though.

I watch him also a couple of emails from him, I think he uses 6.5 Grendel (what ever that is lol)
lots of info and no hooting and hollering which is a plus.

 

[mikek207]

You have received some very sound advice from people with plenty of real world experience in this thread. It’s your choice whether you choose to follow it or not….

It is indeed…

 

[mikek207]

It's always a balance between how much penetration you need for a given situation and how much expansion you need to impart energy. Factors such as the total amount of energy in the bullet at impact, its sectional density, meplat, frangibility, toughness and hardness all play a part, hence why bullet construction is so important. There are times when you don't want to completely obliterate what you're shooting at and times when you want to make the biggest exit wound possible, it depends on the situation. I prefer a 150gr interlock in my .270 because it will knock down the largest game the UK has to offer whilst not obliterating a muntjac. This works for me because I want to use a single rifle/scope/bullet/load which can cover all UK game. I don't only have one rifle but my .270 is the one rifle I want to be able to do anything in the UK with and this combo is my compromise for that. I also just bought a 35 Whelen which I plan to use on large red deer in Devon this coming season which I will use with 225gr Gamekings at around 2800fps at ranges of up to 100m. I expect it to work better than the 150gr interlocks from my .270 but I wouldn't necessarily take it to the highlands and attempt to shoot reds at 250m with it as it will have a scope better suited to short range woodland stalking and the bullet drop and wind drift would be worse than the .270 at that range. Horses for courses. If I weren't shooting muntjac with the .270 and mainly shot red deer or boar I would probably use a 130gr bullet because as @Mungo and @Edinburgh Rifles rifles rightly say it has more energy than the 150gr.

Thanks for the input but like I said I’m looking for suggestions on fast expanding 150gn bullets for a .270 for shooting wild boar for vermin control. Energy isn’t the issue I just asked for suggestions for bullet heads that transfer their energy into the target very quickly instead of over penetrating it.

 

[John Gryphon]

Thanks for the input but like I said I’m looking for suggestions on fast expanding 150gn bullets for a .270 for shooting wild boar for vermin control. Energy isn’t the issue I just asked for suggestions for bullet heads that transfer their energy into the target very quickly instead of over penetrating it.

Thanks for the input but like I said I’m looking for suggestions on fast expanding 150gn bullets for a .270 for shooting wild boar for vermin control. Energy isn’t the issue I just asked for suggestions for bullet heads that transfer their energy into the target very quickly instead of over penetrating it.

I have mentioned the Winchester PP`s Personally shot countless deer/boar with them, its real world experience. I went looking for a box graphic, its wsm 270..same projectile however.
Build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door as they say, well bullet companies and start ups all offer 'this and that' and I have used T+T of course but my go to bullets in are the PP`s when I walk into the gun shop for another ten boxes. When a mature Sambar stag or cracker boar is shoulder shot (eg) thats it!

 

[mikek207]

I have mentioned the Winchester PP`s Personally shot countless deer/boar with them, its real world experience. I went looking for a box graphic, its wsm 270..same projectile however.
Build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door as they say, well bullet companies and start ups all offer 'this and that' and I have used T+T of course but my go to bullets in are the PP`s when I walk into the gun shop for another ten boxes. When a mature Sambar stag or cracker boar is shoulder shot (eg) thats it!

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[mikek207]

I have mentioned the Winchester PP`s Personally shot countless deer/boar with them, its real world experience. I went looking for a box graphic, its wsm 270..same projectile however.
Build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door as they say, well bullet companies and start ups all offer 'this and that' and I have used T+T of course but my go to bullets in are the PP`s when I walk into the gun shop for another ten boxes. When a mature Sambar stag or cracker boar is shoulder shot (eg) thats it!

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Thanks for your input, I should probably clarify that I’m looking for suggestions on bullet heads for reloading not ammunition.

 

[John Gryphon]

Thanks for your input, I should probably clarify that I’m looking for suggestions on bullet heads for reloading not ammunition.

Hmm I actually have a sealed 100 bag Winchester PP projectiles in .270, i presume that one may still be able to purchase.

 

[Overlay]

My 150gn heads are Seria Game king in the .270, are working well for Reds. I am sure the Head name police will arrive soon enough.
Not used on wild boar but wouldn't hesitate to shoot one with mine.

Shoot it in the head would be my x spot

Yep same here i think they were norma 163 grn SP 6.5 x 55 90 yds the boar don’t get up,

Heavier the better i stuck with soft point behind the ear, and practised that shot out to a 100 i was very happy with placement and damage was just what i was / wanted expecting

Try not to over engineer it - heavy accurate shot will do it nicely

 

[mikek207]

Hmm I actually have a sealed 100 bag Winchester PP projectiles in .270, i presume that one may still be able to purchase.

Ahh I misunderstood, I’ll put them on my list

 

[John Gryphon]

Ahh I misunderstood, I’ll put them on my list

I have had a quick search for W projectiles but gave up after being inundated with outside names.

 

[Eddie P]

Thanks for the input but like I said I’m looking for suggestions on fast expanding 150gn bullets for a .270 for shooting wild boar for vermin control. Energy isn’t the issue I just asked for suggestions for bullet heads that transfer their energy into the target very quickly instead of over penetrating it.

As people are trying to explain, that's not what you need, fast expanding BULLETS will not impart the energy where needed, but within the mud / skin / bone.

You need penetration to get the energy into the vital organs / major vasculature, that's what kills.