Zulus choice?
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I think currently you have the choice of 0moa or 35 moa. Also believe illuminator is standard with option to buy different. Could be wrong as long time since I've checked for availability of useful mounts for it. To me all mounts currently available are completely useless as they are sky high. Hope after about a year some company will come up with aftermarket mounts but not. They are brilliant devices but I'll never buy another one because of mounting options
They now come with a 20moa rail as standard
If you want anything different from that it has to be purchased separately
Cheers
Bruce
If you want anything different from that it has to be purchased separately
Cheers
Bruce
kenbro
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Agree, why would the default mount be anything other than 0?
Surely the majority of users would put them on centre fire rifles and air gunners not so many…..or am I underestimating the Air gunner numbers that would buy one.
Ken.
Smellydog
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Airguns don't need an inclined rail
.The only reason I thought they existed was for extreme long range shooting.
kenbro
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Any idea why Bruce?
Thanks, Ken.
To simplify things
When Arken started selling the Zulus. each on came with single size of rail (I think it was 35moa)
Then they brought out more rails with different moa values (and different lengths) so people could choose what rail they wanted when they bought a scope
That was good and honorable idea, but it turned into a bit of a disaster because most people simply didn't know what moa rail best suited their particular application so there were loads of rails returned and swapped for something else
It became a logistical night mare for both Arken/DNT and their retailers. so the decision was made (based on the number of each moa value that had been sold) to supply the scope with the most popular moa rail and if someone wanted a different value, it had to be purchased separately.
We need to remember that, AFAIK, Arken/DNT are unique in even having different moa rails available to fit their scope
PARD sold thousands of NV008 all with the same rail and if the retile didn't finish up where you wanted, you shimmed the scope
Cheers
Bruce
When Arken started selling the Zulus. each on came with single size of rail (I think it was 35moa)
Then they brought out more rails with different moa values (and different lengths) so people could choose what rail they wanted when they bought a scope
That was good and honorable idea, but it turned into a bit of a disaster because most people simply didn't know what moa rail best suited their particular application so there were loads of rails returned and swapped for something else
It became a logistical night mare for both Arken/DNT and their retailers. so the decision was made (based on the number of each moa value that had been sold) to supply the scope with the most popular moa rail and if someone wanted a different value, it had to be purchased separately.
We need to remember that, AFAIK, Arken/DNT are unique in even having different moa rails available to fit their scope
PARD sold thousands of NV008 all with the same rail and if the retile didn't finish up where you wanted, you shimmed the scope
Cheers
Bruce
nf-fuse
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The scope comes with 850 ir.
It's very powerful but you can change it for 940nm.
I haven't bothered I can easily see out to 200 plus.
kenbro
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Thanks Bruce,
But that doesn’t explain the logic of starting with 35moa mount.
You appear to be saying that 35 moa is the most popular mount!
Early Zulus users were told to use coke cans to fix issues.
Ken.
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As you may remember, the Zulus first gained popularity among airgun users and for most of them, a 35moa mount worked OK
It is true that if the 35moa mount put the reticle somewhere you didn't like when the scope was zeroed, then the existing user community (many of whom had owned PARD NV008s) recommended shimming the mount
35moa was never going to satisfy everyone so Arken (unlike PARD) decided to sell mounts with different moa values
As I said already, that was a good and honorable thing to do but it finished up as a rod to break their back so they have reverted to supplying a single specific mount and making the others available as an extra cost item
The availability of several different mounts is still a unique selling feature of the Arken/DNT scopes
Cheers
Bruce
It is true that if the 35moa mount put the reticle somewhere you didn't like when the scope was zeroed, then the existing user community (many of whom had owned PARD NV008s) recommended shimming the mount
35moa was never going to satisfy everyone so Arken (unlike PARD) decided to sell mounts with different moa values
As I said already, that was a good and honorable thing to do but it finished up as a rod to break their back so they have reverted to supplying a single specific mount and making the others available as an extra cost item
The availability of several different mounts is still a unique selling feature of the Arken/DNT scopes
Cheers
Bruce
Smellydog
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Is that retile disfunction then?
nf-fuse
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For reference the 0moa mount ends up with the range finder quite high on the screen for me. That's with a 17hmr zeroed at 100m. That's not say the rail on the gun is perfect of course.
It's absolutely fine in terms of the reticle being zeroed but the lrf goes off the screen at high magnification.
Oh course the LRF is part of the ballistic calculation the the scope offers.
It's absolutely fine in terms of the reticle being zeroed but the lrf goes off the screen at high magnification.
Oh course the LRF is part of the ballistic calculation the the scope offers.
Smellydog
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Did you bore sight it first?
nf-fuse
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Sorry I don't understand what your getting at?
The Lazer range finder is fixed and can't be altered. The actual reticle has quite a long range of adjustment. But of course in an electronic way not in actual movement.
When you press the range finder button a second cross hair appears on the screen. If your reticle is adjusted up or down quite a bit the two don't align.
You can zero the scope by taking a still shot and moving the reticle to the point of impact.
Smellydog
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I bore sighted mine on a centered ret via shims on the mount.
My Ret is not far from center when zeroed. Thus the laser is close to zero.
Check my video.
nf-fuse
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Okay thanks
No I didn't but I've switched it from my cz452 on a 0moa to my cz455 on a 35moa mount. I suspect the 35 will be too much. However it's the only one dnt in dovetail.
Using an picatinny adapter on the cz452 was far from satisfactory .
Thanks for the info. I'll do that when I zero on the 455.
nf-fuse
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Okay thanks
No I didn't but I've switched it from my cz452 on a 0moa to my cz455 on a 35moa mount. I suspect the 35 will be too much. However it's the only one dnt in dovetail.
Using an picatinny adapter on the cz452 was far from satisfactory .
Thanks for the info. I'll do that when I zero on the 455
Did you use the old coke can shim?
enfieldspares
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I thought this was a fishing question at first! About choice of red, traditional black or blue!
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