PDS 1&2 now recognised

[ColinBr]

I see that the PDS training has now been recognised by FC and NatureScot

 

[Morkai]

He still reminds me of...



Something about that club always seems a bit off.

 

[ColinBr]

Oh I can't stand the guy. If he was chocolate he'd eat himself

 

[Nickb]

Oh I can't stand the guy. If he was chocolate he'd eat himself

Proper whalloper

 

[ColinBr]

Proper whalloper

Yup.
Though I've never met him, in this case I don't think I need to

 

[co’den]

I don’t get the argument that consumers need choice of training when there is no mandatory requirement. Surely the effort would have been better spent making the existing training, DSC, the best it could be.

 

[yellow belly]

But do FLS recognise it??

 

[ColinBr]

But do FLS recognise it??

Id imagine they are on that case

 

[Rake Aboot]

What the hell is pds ??
More rubbish we don’t need but will insist on inflicting upon ourselves??

 

[SimpleSimon]

Fake it til you make it, eh?

 

[Mungo]

Fascinating. He seems like a master snake oil salesman.

However, DMQ have not done themselves any favours, and were ripe for a challenge. The DSC system is a complete shambles run by a clique of out of touch, self satisfied fools with more than a whiff of cronyism.

 

[timbrayford]

I don’t get the argument that consumers need choice of training when there is no mandatory requirement. Surely the effort would have been better spent making the existing training, DSC, the best it could be.

Perhaps when you have a monopoly supplier complacency sets in with take it or leave it service and pricing?

 

[finnbear270]

Just had a read of the PDS Blurb, I notice their criteria for a L2 pass requires TWO In the field stalks, Has this prompted DSC dropping theirs to only one?

 

[VSS]

Just had a read of the PDS Blurb, I notice their criteria for a L2 pass requires TWO In the field stalks, Has this prompted DSC dropping theirs to only one?

Either that or the PDS guys are cashing in on all the negative comments that followed the "downgrading" of the DSC2 to only 1 stalk.

 

[Dave_45]

I just want to know what hair clinic he got his beard done in.

 

[VSS]

I just want to know what hair clinic he got his beard done in.

I think he probably played a lot with Action Man when he was a child.

 

[Tim.243]

Either that or the PDS guys are cashing in on all the negative comments that followed the "downgrading" of the DSC2 to only 1 stalk.

I like Peter Jones as he has found a market for those who want it and made a go of it. It is no different right through the shooting world with a person to cater for what ever we need be it a first stalk expensive scope or tricked out stalking truck.

 

[co’den]

Perhaps when you have a monopoly supplier complacency sets in with take it or leave it service and pricing?

Maybe. Competition wouldn’t necessarily fix that. Regulation would, but as far as I can see, non of the training is regulated.

 

[monarman]

I like Peter Jones as he has found a market for those who want it and made a go of it. It is no different right through the shooting world with a person to cater for what ever we need be it a first stalk expensive scope or tricked out stalking truck.

Well said Tim...

 

[Mungo]

Either that or the PDS guys are cashing in on all the negative comments that followed the "downgrading" of the DSC2 to only 1 stalk.

I think reducing to only 1 stalk was actually perfectly sensible. After all, most other vocational qualifications only require one round of each component. You only need to pass your driving test once. Even the vast majority of academic qualifications only require you to demonstrate the skill to a sufficient level once.

The logic is good: as a witness, you only sign off on each component once you’ve seen it done properly. In practice, either the person clearly knows what they’re doing, and more than one stalk is a complete waste of everyone’s time. Or they struggle, and you take 2-3 goes before they get it right.

It actually provides a level of sensible, pragmatic flexibility that wasn’t there before.

However they totally botched the messaging when they did it, and everyone views it as a watering down.

My big problem with DSC2 is the Assessors, many of whom seem to have absolutely no understanding of the basic principles of rigorous assessment and instead seem to treat the whole thing as a way to assert some form of dominance. Each one has a set of completely irrational, idiosyncratic personal interpretations of the criteria that defy logic or best practice. It just becomes a meaningless hoop jumping exercise entirely at the whim of the Assessor.

If this PDS can avoid this, all credit to them.