Rounds getting stuck!!

[SuffolkStag]

Evening all,
I’ve got a Dakota 76 that started life as a 22-250 but now a 6.5 creedmoor.
It’s a floorplate.
I’ve been having occasional jamming where the rounds (Hornady ELDX) jam in the internal box mag nose to tail.
This means that the floorplate spring is defeated and I have to push the rounds back out of the mag manually.
I had a look today and there is no clearance at all between the round and mag.
Any ideas what I can do to get around this?

 

[VSS]

Not really my subject, but to my ignorant eye it looks like the bullet needs shoving into the case a bit further.
Presumably if you were home loading, that's what you'd do?

 

[MAH]

there is no clearance at all between the round and mag.

Ditto what @VSS said.
However if you don't reload, research factory ammunition that use semi spitzer bullets, the OAL might be a bit shorter.
M.

 

[paul o']

What max is mag as bullet looks as if it's max plus a few tho

 

[Ronin]

Seat them deeper

Don’t tell the bullet there a jump

 

[Foxyboy43]

Good old Muir pretty much advised to seat the bullet just short of magazine length - great advice, though I always worried about short magazines!
I would suggest doing this but going back to powder starting charges before you do so and incrementally increasing the powder until you get the required safe performance/magazine fit just right.

 

[SuffolkStag]

Not really my subject, but to my ignorant eye it looks like the bullet needs shoving into the case a bit further.
Presumably if you were home loading, that's what you'd do?

These are factory rounds.
Could I get someone to push them in?

 

[SuffolkStag]

What max is mag as bullet looks as if it's max plus a few tho

What does that mean?
My guess is the 22-250 mag is too short as I believe they are 10mm shorter than a 6.5 creedmoor

 

[SuffolkStag]

What max is mag as bullet looks as if it's max plus a few tho

What does that mean?
My guess is the 22-250 mag is too short as I believe they are 10mm shorter than a 6.5 creed

 

[paul o']

OK lets put it another way !.
What is the maximum length ID of the magazine
Now what is the loaded round oal size
Deduct the maximum overall size of the magazine of that of the loaded round and this will tell you if your loaded round is to long for your ID of the Magazine!
Then decrease the loaded round oal to allow the free movement within the rifles magazine.
If there loaded round was under the the magazine length then I'd look at neck tension under recoil as the bullet may be moving under recoil

 

[Smellydog]

Cut the tip off the bullet

 

[SuffolkStag]

OK lets put it another way !.
What is the maximum length ID of the magazine
Now what is the loaded round oal size
Deduct the maximum overall size of the magazine of that of the loaded round and this will tell you if your loaded round is to long for your ID of the Magazine!
Then decrease the loaded round oal to allow the free movement within the rifles magazine.
If there loaded round was under the the magazine length then I'd look at neck tension under recoil as the bullet may be moving under recoil

Interestingly the ID of the mag is more forgiving at the top than the bottom.
Looks like I either need a longer mag or I need to load my own rounds so that I can seat them deeper.

 

[VSS]

Cut the tip off the bullet

Can be done, I believe.
Apparently bullets perform just as well without it.

 

[Smellydog]

Interestingly the ID of the mag is more forgiving at the top than the bottom.
Looks like I either need a longer mag or I need to load my own rounds so that I can seat them deeper.

Just snip the tip off.

 

[Sika98k]

Can be done, I believe.
Apparently bullets perform just as well without it.

A skinflint I shot with some (many) years ago used to grind the tips off some FMJ rounds he used on the range. They did the business with virtually no change in point of impact. It was a Swedish M96 in the venerable 6.5x55.

 

[SuffolkStag]

A skinflint I shot with some (many) years ago used to grind the tips off some FMJ rounds he used on the range. They did the business with virtually no change in point of impact. It was a Swedish M96 in the venerable 6.5x55.

I might file a few down and see what happens on the target.
Dakota is now Parkwest arms so I might contact them and see if they can supply a 6.5 internal box.
It wouldn’t be the end of the world if the group changed a bit, this is three shots at 100m…

 

[Bo Diddley]

I cut the tip off Hornady 40 grain Vmax to run them through my .22Hornet, it makes no difference to accuracy in my Annie. It will be an easy solution if it works like it does for me.

 

[jcampbellsmith]

Fit a Wyatt's box magazine.
Regards
JCS

 

[SuffolkStag]

Fit a Wyatt's box magazine.
Regards
JCS

Would they fit a Dakota 76?

 

[jcampbellsmith]

Would they fit a Dakota 76?

How deep are your pockets? I had a semi custom Remington 260 Rem once upon a time. When I pointed out that my 140 Amax rounds wouldn't fit, the rifle smith fitted a Wyatt's extended mag box. I've still got it fitted to the latest 260 Rem.
Regards
JCS