Poor Decision making and critical control

Buchan

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I am usually scrupulous with carcass preparation and handling within the larder. It's quality food and needs to be treated as such. sadly I made several errors, compounding each other that has led me to rejecting a whole carcass.
Nice clean shot on a stag, high lung but a clean gralloch. Long drag over rough ground so in some areas the hair was completely removed.
Got it home OK and aitchbone hung in my chiller. at 65kg it just fiitted.
Checked chiller temperature a couple of days later, running a bit warm so reduced it.
Came to skin on Saturday morning - nearly frozen. Away for weekend, so tweaked temperature.
Skinning tonight, temp at 7, immediately I don't like the feel of the meat probably had ice thawing above it and dripping on, no smell, but just not right.
Skinning - lots of gas bubbles under the skin and those areas of big hairless the skin was very thin and dry. Meat looking pale and frankly not pleasant. So it's off to the zoo with it. I suspect some bacterial contamination has got in through the thin skin.
My mistakes:
1. Not taking the dead sled to reduce the damage of a long drag
2. Not taking it to a dealer as that size is really too big to deal with neatly (but It was shot Sunday, no chance to get it anywhere till Wednesday)
3. Not repeatedly checking the fridge. I had to wedge the door shut as it was so big and didn't want the faff of having to force it closed. I won't be trusting the display temperature on its own in future.
4. Should probably have skinned it Friday night and broken it down Saturday morning (but we were away over the weekend and I was out Friday night too) I could have deal with this on Wednesday as I was off, but I wanted it to hang longer.

In terms of HACCP, lots of things all went wrong leading to rejection. So while the rules for meat hygiene can seem a real pain, especially when you are starting out, they are there for a reason. A bit of thinking about the logistics would have been wise.

Of course the real mistake was shooting the damn thing in the first place.
 

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Looking at your first photo, I would say very high humidity in your chiller was the main thing that affected the carcass.
Whether that was due to the temperature fluctuations, or the door not closing properly, or something else, I can't say.
 
No one else can make the call only you .. your present you know the criteria and you the one with the feel for it all being there

Better to call it if any doubt and not risk anybody else health or wellbeing

Paul
 
Would you ever consider field butchery/gutless method? I shoot quite a number of reds but have no means of mechanical extraction and am too old for dragging them out. Sometimes it means multiple trips back and forth but it gets the meat out clean.
 
I am usually scrupulous with carcass preparation and handling within the larder. It's quality food and needs to be treated as such. sadly I made several errors, compounding each other that has led me to rejecting a whole carcass.
Nice clean shot on a stag, high lung but a clean gralloch. Long drag over rough ground so in some areas the hair was completely removed.
Got it home OK and aitchbone hung in my chiller. at 65kg it just fiitted.
Checked chiller temperature a couple of days later, running a bit warm so reduced it.
Came to skin on Saturday morning - nearly frozen. Away for weekend, so tweaked temperature.
Skinning tonight, temp at 7, immediately I don't like the feel of the meat probably had ice thawing above it and dripping on, no smell, but just not right.
Skinning - lots of gas bubbles under the skin and those areas of big hairless the skin was very thin and dry. Meat looking pale and frankly not pleasant. So it's off to the zoo with it. I suspect some bacterial contamination has got in through the thin skin.
My mistakes:
1. Not taking the dead sled to reduce the damage of a long drag
2. Not taking it to a dealer as that size is really too big to deal with neatly (but It was shot Sunday, no chance to get it anywhere till Wednesday)
3. Not repeatedly checking the fridge. I had to wedge the door shut as it was so big and didn't want the faff of having to force it closed. I won't be trusting the display temperature on its own in future.
4. Should probably have skinned it Friday night and broken it down Saturday morning (but we were away over the weekend and I was out Friday night too) I could have deal with this on Wednesday as I was off, but I wanted it to hang longer.

In terms of HACCP, lots of things all went wrong leading to rejection. So while the rules for meat hygiene can seem a real pain, especially when you are starting out, they are there for a reason. A bit of thinking about the logistics would have been wise.

Of course the real mistake was shooting the damn thing in the first place.
I think you might have been too critical of yourself!
 
If you're not happy condemning the carcass is the right call, regardless of any perceived errors. Occasionally a carcass just isn't 'right', and if you're not confident it's ok it's not worth the risk. You just know when something is off kilter, even if you can't define the exact cause. You made a good decision 👍
 
Looking at your first photo, I would say very high humidity in your chiller was the main thing that affected the carcass.
Whether that was due to the temperature fluctuations, or the door not closing properly, or something else, I can't say.
Ah! now another error in the critical points. I didn't switch the fan on. The small metal tag that does this when the door closes is broken, so I push something in to operate it. I was so knackered, I forgot.
 
If it was shot on Sunday I would have skinned it on Sunday, or Monday morning at the latest. Hides can hold a lot of heat and IMO the sooner that coat comes off the better. Carcass cut in half or quartered would help too.

But, hindsight.... right? :)
 
I am usually scrupulous with carcass preparation and handling within the larder. It's quality food and needs to be treated as such. sadly I made several errors, compounding each other that has led me to rejecting a whole carcass.
Nice clean shot on a stag, high lung but a clean gralloch. Long drag over rough ground so in some areas the hair was completely removed.
Got it home OK and aitchbone hung in my chiller. at 65kg it just fiitted.
Checked chiller temperature a couple of days later, running a bit warm so reduced it.
Came to skin on Saturday morning - nearly frozen. Away for weekend, so tweaked temperature.
Skinning tonight, temp at 7, immediately I don't like the feel of the meat probably had ice thawing above it and dripping on, no smell, but just not right.
Skinning - lots of gas bubbles under the skin and those areas of big hairless the skin was very thin and dry. Meat looking pale and frankly not pleasant. So it's off to the zoo with it. I suspect some bacterial contamination has got in through the thin skin.
My mistakes:
1. Not taking the dead sled to reduce the damage of a long drag
2. Not taking it to a dealer as that size is really too big to deal with neatly (but It was shot Sunday, no chance to get it anywhere till Wednesday)
3. Not repeatedly checking the fridge. I had to wedge the door shut as it was so big and didn't want the faff of having to force it closed. I won't be trusting the display temperature on its own in future.
4. Should probably have skinned it Friday night and broken it down Saturday morning (but we were away over the weekend and I was out Friday night too) I could have deal with this on Wednesday as I was off, but I wanted it to hang longer.

In terms of HACCP, lots of things all went wrong leading to rejection. So while the rules for meat hygiene can seem a real pain, especially when you are starting out, they are there for a reason. A bit of thinking about the logistics would have been wise.

Of course the real mistake was shooting the damn thing in the first place.
Yes as per the last part of your post, we all know exactly what we should have done just after we didn’t do any of it
 
It happens, big deer and small fridges don't work sometimes, there's a lot of bones that can be removed and the meat trays stack better than a full carcass can hang. (your point 4)
Worryingly your rejected carcass looks in better shape than some I see presented to the dealer.
 
It's still in the chiller, front legs and neck off to make moving easier, awaiting I hope collection for the trail hounds. The meat is really flabby, very different to what I normally see. Stag condition was OK, bit thin post winter, gralloch normal
 
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