The closest part to me is pink Swaffham section which is about 2000 acres. Attached shows how its linked to the other proposals which total up. I may be wrong on the 7000 acres exactly but its what I've been told - I'll find out more first hand.
Solar "farm" effect on deer management and wildlife on adjacet land
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If the landowners don't allow deer stalking, but the area is heavy with roe and munty - then how is deer welfare considered? Are they just getting left to get old and die or is it just presumed that they are transient through the area? Which would seem plausible on smaller areas but when we are talking about large blocks - bigger than some farming estates - then I find it more likely that the deer are resident and welfare issues will be an issue. In my opinion one of our primary concerns as deer stalkers should be deer welfare
Hi Foxyboy, I can understand that that could be an effect and that's great if you want more deer! But most farmers/landowners around here really don't. I can see it being a problem unfortunately - but maybe some will see as an opportunity for paid stalking, syndicates etcOld pal told me that a new windfarm on a neighbouring glenside was the best thing ever happened to him as it more than doubled the number of beasts on his side….
nun_hunter
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Surely that's the same as the land owned by LACS and anyone else who is anti shooting. Let nature take its course. I'm not saying it's right but it's already happening on places with deer that don't have the risks associated with damaging expensive infrastructure.
Very valid point
Dunwaters
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Not true, not true at all.
For a start they’re not farms, they’re industrial power plants located on the surface covering a considerable area, with potentially lethal voltage at surface level. Combine a row of cells and you have enough voltage at the end of the row to give you more than a bit of a nip.
As such they will have appropriate levels of security, including bio security.
The area is required to be enclosed by airport type security fencing, unauthorised access is not permitted and enforced by security. Animals are not welcome, a lot of the cabling is in trays or shallow trenches, the farmers who lease the ground are restricted to grazing “ hornless sheep” . Creatures burrowing under the fence or causing damage on the site will be culled.
Any tree or shrub which establishes in the area will also be removed, either physically removed or chemical controlled.
There’ll be low grass and sheep, nothing else.
There will be no shooting within the area of the plant and there may be a shooting exclusion zone established within 200M of the boundary.
Angling access to rivers and streams flowing through the area will be curtailed.
You’ll have no deer, no deer stalking, no access to shoot birds or to go angling or to wander across it.
It’ll be totally out of bounds for the full twenty years of the lease agreement.
Not so frickin green now, is it?
nun_hunter
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It is slightly different if the deer are trapped and so in theory after a few seasons could eat all the available vegetation. Less likely with roe and muntjac but could lead to welfare concern.Very valid point
If this did happen then I expect they would open a gate and drive the deer out to get numbers down. We had to do something similar at the police training facility on Ashdown Forest.
Foxyboy43
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Hmmm. Based on how herds which get in to forest blocks are treated I rather think very few, if any, would make it to a gate…..
Absolute rubbish!
They have to leave access for badgers and alike. Roe and munties in abundance inside and outside of my local solar farm it's been there decades. Even a small wood within. No restrictions on shooting adjacent ground. In this case it's mown. In the one that's just being built the owner will be grazing his large flock within the site. Fencing is 2m high rectangular open mesh.
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They have to leave access for badgers and alike. Roe and munties in abundance inside and outside of my local solar farm it's been there decades. Even a small wood within. No restrictions on shooting adjacent ground. In this case it's mown. In the one that's just being built the owner will be grazing his large flock within the site. Fencing is 2m high rectangular open mesh.
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C h r i s
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Not rubbish, there clearly is no "standard", the solar installations on my permissions are close mesh, badgers and foxes do tunnel underneath, but no access for deer, or me! Hundreds of acres now out of bounds. Gutted.
Thats interesting - our local one is as Dunwater says really - just solar / fences / batteries / no shoot zone - awful just awful
nun_hunter
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I am assuming the owners of the solar panels don't want people shooting in the solar farm otherwise this wouldn't become a problem so driving them out is a cheap and safer alternative for them.Hmmm. Based on how herds which get in to forest blocks are treated I rather think very few, if any, would make it to a gate…..
- very sketchy.I'd hate to see the figures for rates of land loss at the moment - house building, infrastructure for offshore wind power distribution and solar all taking its toll. its sad to see what we are doing to our countryside
Freeforester
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Q: Do tatties grow in the night? Or just when the sun shines?
Anyone wondering why the ‘plight of the Uyghurs’ left the MSM’s spotlight might want to consider where and how solar panels are made, quite apart from the sheer short term lunacy of ‘profiting’ from a completely unsustainable land use option - we aren’t exactly California or Spain, leaving aside the folly of the latter’s energy policy which precipitated the complete ‘switch off of the lights’ Nationally there earlier this spring. All at the expense of those not being in the fortunate position of owning land, but obliged to stump up for such ridiculous, completely unnecessary let alone unsustainable boondoggles.
Be ‘grateful’ for these panels and their proponents in the coming winters when the lights will indeed go out here.
Anyone wondering why the ‘plight of the Uyghurs’ left the MSM’s spotlight might want to consider where and how solar panels are made, quite apart from the sheer short term lunacy of ‘profiting’ from a completely unsustainable land use option - we aren’t exactly California or Spain, leaving aside the folly of the latter’s energy policy which precipitated the complete ‘switch off of the lights’ Nationally there earlier this spring. All at the expense of those not being in the fortunate position of owning land, but obliged to stump up for such ridiculous, completely unnecessary let alone unsustainable boondoggles.
Be ‘grateful’ for these panels and their proponents in the coming winters when the lights will indeed go out here.
Solar panels are environmentally nuts with regard to lifecycle analysis though the virtue signalling motivation of those well off enough to afford them is clear enough, and of course those who invest purely to reap the benefits of our ridiculous energy subsidy schemes, but from a deer control perspective they do have their uses.
bottletopbill
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Solar earn more per acre and cost the land owner nothing but after the contract ends most will be brown field land (housing)
But as you can see from the above picture it as some advantages
But as you can see from the above picture it as some advantages
Freeforester
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Governments who lose the power lose power…
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