What a winning day šŸ¤—

A quick write up as I’ve a lot to do before heading to Scotland stalkng next Sunday.

Like many others, I was determined to watch the Roses hopefully triumph so I made a hasty foray into Wales first thing to check zero on 3 rifles and hopefully to decide which 2 I’m going to take with me to Scotland next weekend: my trusty .308 S20 with DS that has done at least 15 weeks on the hill in Scotland with great effect but it’s dammed heavy; my replacement .270 Tikka which is superbly lightweight; or my super lightweight.308 Tikka in MDT HNT26 chassis. As usual, I ended up firing more rounds that I’d planned for but the MDT .308 was off - more of that shortly. What ****ed me off was that my 4ā€ Tom’s target at 200 decided to part company after the second .270 round - WTF šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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Happy that all 3 were spot on, I headed home to watch the rugby. After that shaky start, what a match. More physical that I’d expected and yes, Hanna deserved that yellow card! Oh Ellie, that try - we were all expecting one like that given previous matches but oh what class šŸ‘ So there I was, sat in my stalking kit, car loaded, dogs in their waistcoats, rifle bagged by the door waiting for the final whistle. As the clock ticked down, the growing realisation that they had done it as Canada could not possibly score the points in the remaining time - eureka šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘ Well done ladies 🌹🌹🌹🌹

I drive North to my usual permissions - not enough time to do my normal routine so a quick look around the larger first before heading on to much smaller but very fruitful second. Pulling into the first, the late Alantoo’s widow is harvesting apples from the large tree that covers the driveway, ably assisted by a young couple I quickly discover are visiting from Canada - ooh, that’s going to be challenging 🤭 Turns out that are not into rugby so much sport lost :coat:

The Teckel by now is in full on Apple retrieve mode and it’s a toss up whether he’d leave behind the never ending game of fetch or condescend to join me stalking. He finally tags along as I leave the cottage begrudgingly giving me the side-eye look :rolleyes: The ā€œtourā€ takes barely half an hour - absolutely nothing. However, I see that the farmer has flailed every hedge into what looks like bomb damaged submission - there goes my cover as most of the ground is flat arable with only the hedges for cover :confused: I understand why he does it but it was so brutal - no finesse. It also explains why I’d seen nothing on the cottage trail cam as apparently he’s been doing it for the last 3 evenings into darkness.

So off to the second. En route, I see the usual large herd of fallow have moved into the field the opposite side to the wooded valley I’m going to stalk. Too far to see exactly how many and their numbers as I negotiate the steep bends on the road but they are out and feeding - maybe St Hubert will smile upon me šŸ¤ž

I pull into the driveway and slowly park up. Grab the sticks and rifle leaving the dogs in the car, and make my way to my vantage point in a barn overlooking the steep wooded slope below the farmhouse. Nothing - bar pheasants - it’s that time of the year again.

I get the dogs, walk across the lawn spotting that the farmer is watching TV, deciding not to speak then as I’d loose what little light I had. The vegetable patch is clear, as is the orchard and first small paddock bar rabbits and more bloody pheasants. I stalk into the main field bordering the wood. It’s empty. Slowly, I traverse the margin to the far corner, the limit of this stalk. A few rabbits and more dammed pheasants down the steep slope but nothing. I traverse back despondent having hoped for some opportunity to gain confidence with the post-range zero’d .308 - that’s stalking.

Then suddenly, in a chance sweep with the thermal I catch bits of a large heat source in the valley bottom that had been empty minutes before. I slowly move to the edge to get a better view, up on sticks and then shuffle to get a suitable path through the trees - eureka, a melanistic fallow buck. Now this buck and I, and indeed this rifle, have history! He’s about 50m from where I had first seen him just over a week ago. Couched at 80m I took a head-on head shot. The buck somersaulted backwards and ran off - WTF šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø I slid down the slope. A clear heat signature on the ground from where he’d been couched but no ā€œpins and paintā€. I work both dogs up and around the valley for an hour - no signs. The dogs had trails at some points but the ground was full of badger, muntjac and pheasant smells. I was concerned by the shot but the total absence of any strike gave me some confidence of a clean miss.

This evening, he wasn’t so lucky. A slightly oblique quartering chest shot from well above saw him run barely 20m before collapsing.

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Then the fun begins ā˜¹ļø He’s about 400m down and about 20m off a long disused track that climbs the steep wooded hillside. The unfortunate things is that there were at least half a dozen substantial trees that had come down across that track and, despite having thought that it would be a good idea some time ago to clear the track, I hadn’t :coat:

What ensued thereafter was emotional and frankly for a man on the cusp of his 70’s, bloody knackering! All I can say is thank the proverbial for my investment in my capstan winch. Four separate pulls were required to get it up the track, over and under the fallen trees and up to the gateway where I normally gralloch. Epic and a clear failure of Rule No1: think about the extraction BEFORE you pull the trigger.

The amount of fat inside this animal was truly staggering- more than I have ever seen before in all my stalking. The neck too was bigger than many reds I have shot. A beautiful specimen but what then dawned upon me was that if this lone fallow buck had been pushed out by a more dominant and bigger buck, he must be a monster :oops:

Fat removed, gralloched and head and feet off, he was only 70 kg in the larder. I’ll recheck that today as I couldn’t even drag him in my Jet sled - I’ve had a 75 kg fallow buck last year but this seemed bigger.

The rest is history as they say and, after a beer whilst rewatching today’s match highlights, time for bed.

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Back to what a ā€œluckyā€ day this was, there in that gateway was a H4H bracelet I’d lost 3 months ago. They do say, things come in 3’s šŸ¤—

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Most enjoyable read.
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You of course knew/know that at your age it's critically important to think twice - preferably thrice - about extraction before pulling the trigger?

K
 
What a beautiful buck! As an aside, I can only hope to live somewhere that pheasants become such a regular sight. Nowt here for gamebirds but an occasional blue grouse and a very surprising new and rare turkey population.


Scott
 
@Mountain Bug The pheasants are only there because there’s a large shoot next door to that farm. They drive the farmer mad and the vegetable garden constantly gets hammered. The numbers raised/released are madness - I’ve seen over a hundred in one field alone. That said, the release of pheasants over the decades has let to them being fully established but like muntjac, they are technically an invasive species.

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Interesting development about your turkeys - envious. I blame Meateater for creating that itch 🤭
 
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@Mountain Bug The pheasants are only there because there’s a large shoot next door to that farm. They drive the farmer mad and the vegetable garden constantly gets hammered. The numbers raised/released are madness - I’ve seen over a hundred in one field alone. That said, the release of pheasants over the decades has let to them being fully established but like muntjac, they are technically an invasive species.

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Interesting development about your turkeys - envious. I blame Meateater for creating that itch 🤭
Nice write up

Pheasants however are not like munties - they are non native yes - but not invasive
 
Nice write up

Pheasants however are not like munties - they are non native yes - but not invasive
Hear what you say, but they certainly feel like that here!

Don’t get me wrong, Iā€˜ve shot pheasant since the 80’s and am a member of a ā€œsmall friendly shootā€ where we all take turns to feed and act as keepers. However, we are miles from any habitation and only put down 600. The pen not far from this farm is one of four I know and each holds thousands! They are catering at other peoples ā€œexpenseā€ for the rich shooters - I enjoy taking the odd bird, particularly with a demanding shot, but this shoot is about numbers which leaves a sour taste in my mouth. JMVFWIW
 
A quick write up as I’ve a lot to do before heading to Scotland stalkng next Sunday.

Like many others, I was determined to watch the Roses hopefully triumph so I made a hasty foray into Wales first thing to check zero on 3 rifles and hopefully to decide which 2 I’m going to take with me to Scotland next weekend: my trusty .308 S20 with DS that has done at least 15 weeks on the hill in Scotland with great effect but it’s dammed heavy; my replacement .270 Tikka which is superbly lightweight; or my super lightweight.308 Tikka in MDT HNT26 chassis. As usual, I ended up firing more rounds that I’d planned for but the MDT .308 was off - more of that shortly. What ****ed me off was that my 4ā€ Tom’s target at 200 decided to part company after the second .270 round - WTF šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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Happy that all 3 were spot on, I headed home to watch the rugby. After that shaky start, what a match. More physical that I’d expected and yes, Hanna deserved that yellow card! Oh Ellie, that try - we were all expecting one like that given previous matches but oh what class šŸ‘ So there I was, sat in my stalking kit, car loaded, dogs in their waistcoats, rifle bagged by the door waiting for the final whistle. As the clock ticked down, the growing realisation that they had done it as Canada could not possibly score the points in the remaining time - eureka šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘ Well done ladies 🌹🌹🌹🌹

I drive North to my usual permissions - not enough time to do my normal routine so a quick look around the larger first before heading on to much smaller but very fruitful second. Pulling into the first, the late Alantoo’s widow is harvesting apples from the large tree that covers the driveway, ably assisted by a young couple I quickly discover are visiting from Canada - ooh, that’s going to be challenging 🤭 Turns out that are not into rugby so much sport lost :coat:

The Teckel by now is in full on Apple retrieve mode and it’s a toss up whether he’d leave behind the never ending game of fetch or condescend to join me stalking. He finally tags along as I leave the cottage begrudgingly giving me the side-eye look :rolleyes: The ā€œtourā€ takes barely half an hour - absolutely nothing. However, I see that the farmer has flailed every hedge into what looks like bomb damaged submission - there goes my cover as most of the ground is flat arable with only the hedges for cover :confused: I understand why he does it but it was so brutal - no finesse. It also explains why I’d seen nothing on the cottage trail cam as apparently he’s been doing it for the last 3 evenings into darkness.

So off to the second. En route, I see the usual large herd of fallow have moved into the field the opposite side to the wooded valley I’m going to stalk. Too far to see exactly how many and their numbers as I negotiate the steep bends on the road but they are out and feeding - maybe St Hubert will smile upon me šŸ¤ž

I pull into the driveway and slowly park up. Grab the sticks and rifle leaving the dogs in the car, and make my way to my vantage point in a barn overlooking the steep wooded slope below the farmhouse. Nothing - bar pheasants - it’s that time of the year again.

I get the dogs, walk across the lawn spotting that the farmer is watching TV, deciding not to speak then as I’d loose what little light I had. The vegetable patch is clear, as is the orchard and first small paddock bar rabbits and more bloody pheasants. I stalk into the main field bordering the wood. It’s empty. Slowly, I traverse the margin to the far corner, the limit of this stalk. A few rabbits and more dammed pheasants down the steep slope but nothing. I traverse back despondent having hoped for some opportunity to gain confidence with the post-range zero’d .308 - that’s stalking.

Then suddenly, in a chance sweep with the thermal I catch bits of a large heat source in the valley bottom that had been empty minutes before. I slowly move to the edge to get a better view, up on sticks and then shuffle to get a suitable path through the trees - eureka, a melanistic fallow buck. Now this buck and I, and indeed this rifle, have history! He’s about 50m from where I had first seen him just over a week ago. Couched at 80m I took a head-on head shot. The buck somersaulted backwards and ran off - WTF šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø I slid down the slope. A clear heat signature on the ground from where he’d been couched but no ā€œpins and paintā€. I work both dogs up and around the valley for an hour - no signs. The dogs had trails at some points but the ground was full of badger, muntjac and pheasant smells. I was concerned by the shot but the total absence of any strike gave me some confidence of a clean miss.

This evening, he wasn’t so lucky. A slightly oblique quartering chest shot from well above saw him run barely 20m before collapsing.

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Then the fun begins ā˜¹ļø He’s about 400m down and about 20m off a long disused track that climbs the steep wooded hillside. The unfortunate things is that there were at least half a dozen substantial trees that had come down across that track and, despite having thought that it would be a good idea some time ago to clear the track, I hadn’t :coat:

What ensued thereafter was emotional and frankly for a man on the cusp of his 70’s, bloody knackering! All I can say is thank the proverbial for my investment in my capstan winch. Four separate pulls were required to get it up the track, over and under the fallen trees and up to the gateway where I normally gralloch. Epic and a clear failure of Rule No1: think about the extraction BEFORE you pull the trigger.

The amount of fat inside this animal was truly staggering- more than I have ever seen before in all my stalking. The neck too was bigger than many reds I have shot. A beautiful specimen but what then dawned upon me was that if this lone fallow buck had been pushed out by a more dominant and bigger buck, he must be a monster :oops:

Fat removed, gralloched and head and feet off, he was only 70 kg in the larder. I’ll recheck that today as I couldn’t even drag him in my Jet sled - I’ve had a 75 kg fallow buck last year but this seemed bigger.

The rest is history as they say and, after a beer whilst rewatching today’s match highlights, time for bed.

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Back to what a ā€œluckyā€ day this was, there in that gateway was a H4H bracelet I’d lost 3 months ago. They do say, things come in 3’s šŸ¤—

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Good stuff Peter :tiphat: , I have a couple of spots when the deer are facing the "wrong direction" as in deep ditch/jungle or the thick swampy bit so they get a pass. I say to my self it is a long season so just wait until next time while grinding my back teeth lol.
 
Good stuff Peter :tiphat: , I have a couple of spots when the deer are facing the "wrong direction" as in deep ditch/jungle or the thick swampy bit so they get a pass. I say to my self it is a long season so just wait until next time while grinding my back teeth lol.
@Tim.243 There are relatively few fallow on these 2 bits of ground and that's the way both farmers want it to stay. Both have wooded valleys which act as conduits for the fallow to move between areas so its a necessity to take them when seen - it also means that they inevitable avoid that area for a while to the farmer's delight but as the season progresses and they come under pressure from the other areas, so they reappear. Last Saturday's was a good one to take - a loner, ejected pre-rut. Right time for me, but wrong place, albeit many of my fondest memories of specific deer are about the extractions, especially up on Arran. Glad I achieved it and this one too will linger as a a fond memory (in hindsight).
 
@Tim.243 There are relatively few fallow on these 2 bits of ground and that's the way both farmers want it to stay. Both have wooded valleys which act as conduits for the fallow to move between areas so its a necessity to take them when seen - it also means that they inevitable avoid that area for a while to the farmer's delight but as the season progresses and they come under pressure from the other areas, so they reappear. Last Saturday's was a good one to take - a loner, ejected pre-rut. Right time for me, but wrong place, albeit many of my fondest memories of specific deer are about the extractions, especially up on Arran. Glad I achieved it and this one too will linger as a a fond memory (in hindsight).
I get that Peter, not seen you get 2 on your hoist yet so waiting for the next instalment.šŸ˜‡

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A quick write up as I’ve a lot to do before heading to Scotland stalkng next Sunday.

Like many others, I was determined to watch the Roses hopefully triumph so I made a hasty foray into Wales first thing to check zero on 3 rifles and hopefully to decide which 2 I’m going to take with me to Scotland next weekend: my trusty .308 S20 with DS that has done at least 15 weeks on the hill in Scotland with great effect but it’s dammed heavy; my replacement .270 Tikka which is superbly lightweight; or my super lightweight.308 Tikka in MDT HNT26 chassis. As usual, I ended up firing more rounds that I’d planned for but the MDT .308 was off - more of that shortly. What ****ed me off was that my 4ā€ Tom’s target at 200 decided to part company after the second .270 round - WTF šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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Happy that all 3 were spot on, I headed home to watch the rugby. After that shaky start, what a match. More physical that I’d expected and yes, Hanna deserved that yellow card! Oh Ellie, that try - we were all expecting one like that given previous matches but oh what class šŸ‘ So there I was, sat in my stalking kit, car loaded, dogs in their waistcoats, rifle bagged by the door waiting for the final whistle. As the clock ticked down, the growing realisation that they had done it as Canada could not possibly score the points in the remaining time - eureka šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘ Well done ladies 🌹🌹🌹🌹

I drive North to my usual permissions - not enough time to do my normal routine so a quick look around the larger first before heading on to much smaller but very fruitful second. Pulling into the first, the late Alantoo’s widow is harvesting apples from the large tree that covers the driveway, ably assisted by a young couple I quickly discover are visiting from Canada - ooh, that’s going to be challenging 🤭 Turns out that are not into rugby so much sport lost :coat:

The Teckel by now is in full on Apple retrieve mode and it’s a toss up whether he’d leave behind the never ending game of fetch or condescend to join me stalking. He finally tags along as I leave the cottage begrudgingly giving me the side-eye look :rolleyes: The ā€œtourā€ takes barely half an hour - absolutely nothing. However, I see that the farmer has flailed every hedge into what looks like bomb damaged submission - there goes my cover as most of the ground is flat arable with only the hedges for cover :confused: I understand why he does it but it was so brutal - no finesse. It also explains why I’d seen nothing on the cottage trail cam as apparently he’s been doing it for the last 3 evenings into darkness.

So off to the second. En route, I see the usual large herd of fallow have moved into the field the opposite side to the wooded valley I’m going to stalk. Too far to see exactly how many and their numbers as I negotiate the steep bends on the road but they are out and feeding - maybe St Hubert will smile upon me šŸ¤ž

I pull into the driveway and slowly park up. Grab the sticks and rifle leaving the dogs in the car, and make my way to my vantage point in a barn overlooking the steep wooded slope below the farmhouse. Nothing - bar pheasants - it’s that time of the year again.

I get the dogs, walk across the lawn spotting that the farmer is watching TV, deciding not to speak then as I’d loose what little light I had. The vegetable patch is clear, as is the orchard and first small paddock bar rabbits and more bloody pheasants. I stalk into the main field bordering the wood. It’s empty. Slowly, I traverse the margin to the far corner, the limit of this stalk. A few rabbits and more dammed pheasants down the steep slope but nothing. I traverse back despondent having hoped for some opportunity to gain confidence with the post-range zero’d .308 - that’s stalking.

Then suddenly, in a chance sweep with the thermal I catch bits of a large heat source in the valley bottom that had been empty minutes before. I slowly move to the edge to get a better view, up on sticks and then shuffle to get a suitable path through the trees - eureka, a melanistic fallow buck. Now this buck and I, and indeed this rifle, have history! He’s about 50m from where I had first seen him just over a week ago. Couched at 80m I took a head-on head shot. The buck somersaulted backwards and ran off - WTF šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø I slid down the slope. A clear heat signature on the ground from where he’d been couched but no ā€œpins and paintā€. I work both dogs up and around the valley for an hour - no signs. The dogs had trails at some points but the ground was full of badger, muntjac and pheasant smells. I was concerned by the shot but the total absence of any strike gave me some confidence of a clean miss.

This evening, he wasn’t so lucky. A slightly oblique quartering chest shot from well above saw him run barely 20m before collapsing.

View attachment 439136

Then the fun begins ā˜¹ļø He’s about 400m down and about 20m off a long disused track that climbs the steep wooded hillside. The unfortunate things is that there were at least half a dozen substantial trees that had come down across that track and, despite having thought that it would be a good idea some time ago to clear the track, I hadn’t :coat:

What ensued thereafter was emotional and frankly for a man on the cusp of his 70’s, bloody knackering! All I can say is thank the proverbial for my investment in my capstan winch. Four separate pulls were required to get it up the track, over and under the fallen trees and up to the gateway where I normally gralloch. Epic and a clear failure of Rule No1: think about the extraction BEFORE you pull the trigger.

The amount of fat inside this animal was truly staggering- more than I have ever seen before in all my stalking. The neck too was bigger than many reds I have shot. A beautiful specimen but what then dawned upon me was that if this lone fallow buck had been pushed out by a more dominant and bigger buck, he must be a monster :oops:

Fat removed, gralloched and head and feet off, he was only 70 kg in the larder. I’ll recheck that today as I couldn’t even drag him in my Jet sled - I’ve had a 75 kg fallow buck last year but this seemed bigger.

The rest is history as they say and, after a beer whilst rewatching today’s match highlights, time for bed.

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Back to what a ā€œluckyā€ day this was, there in that gateway was a H4H bracelet I’d lost 3 months ago. They do say, things come in 3’s šŸ¤—

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I was the bloke with the Martini Henry on the next firing point to you at the range. Glad your luck picked up later on after your steel let go. That fallow buck is a cracker.
 
As an addendum, and in part answer to the "yield question" in another thread, this magnificent 66kg (larder) buck yielded only 26.67kg of packed product (40.4%) with a retail price of £405.52 for the packaged products.

Others could probably recover more and possibly charge more but that's the (current) limit of my abilities and what my local market will bear cost-wise. It does not allow for the costs of my time, packaging materials, electric costs, etc.

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As an addendum, and in part answer to the "yield question" in another thread, this magnificent 66kg (larder) buck yielded only 26.67kg of packed product (40.4%) with a retail price of £405.52 for the packaged products.

Others could probably recover more and possibly charge more but that's the (current) limit of my abilities and what my local market will bear cost-wise. It does not allow for the costs of my time, packaging materials, electric costs, etc.

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That's very poor.
Was the animal carrying a lot of fat?
(ie, was there a lot of waste from the carcass?)
I would have expected a (lean) fallow of that weight to have generated retail sales somewhere between £650 and £700
 
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