Hikmicro stellar sq50 vs nocpix ace h50r

[Lloyd-holmes]

Hi all, im looking for opinions from people that have actually looked through/used both of the above scopes. If you’ve got either but haven’t looked through the other then I’m afraid your to much help
I’m currently using an alpex and really like it however it has cost me a few foxes just because I couldn’t find them quickly enough in the scope after switching from the thermal spotter!

The scope will be used for all sorts of shooting but predominantly foxing out to ranges of 400/500 yards.
I’m not too worried about weight as most of my foxing is done from the buggy or static from corners of fields.
I no they both use the same sensor so id imagine image quality is much of a muchness in both but what’s the image like in both when a bit of magnification is used? How does the ocular mag work on the nocpix?

Thankyou very much

 

[Jeff8861]

I was in a similar position to you. I went to a local gunshop and I took both outside for a look. Out of the box in basic settings the ace was far better. The overall sharpness and clarity was very evident in the ace. The only thing going for the hik was the weight. I purchased the ace and to be honest ive had a few 640 50mm scopes before and upto now the ace has been outstanding best so far. The ocular magnification is a massive plus factor. It magnifies the screen so little or no pixelation. I hardly use the digital mag. Ive also found the bc to be virtually identical to the strelok pro. im sure i seen somewhere that the ace is far the bigger seller i maybe wrong. Ive seen footage from the stellar and there is nothing wrong with it. Try and get out with someone who has one then decide. Two great scopes you cant go wrong with both but for me and others the ace is up there. If it helps the late night vision show have done a full review on both. The ace came out as their scope of the year. Ive got plenty of footage of required. But try and get out and look through them.

 

[Blackwood Outdoors]

Both equally as popular.

Ace has ocular zoom plus 4 year warranty.

NocPix Ace H50R Thermal Scope

The NocPix Ace H50R thermal scope features a 12 micron full HD 640x480 resolution <15mk sensor and inbuilt inline LRF system.

www.blackwoodoutdoors.co.uk

Stellar is lighter weight and longer battery life, Image Pro 3.

HikMicro Stellar SQ50L 3.0 Thermal Scope

The HikMicro Stellar 3.0 SQ50L thermal scope features a 12 micron full HD 640x512 resolution <15mk sensor and inbuilt inline LRF system.

www.blackwoodoutdoors.co.uk

Both have 2560px displays and 640px 12um sensors.

 

[One on top of two]

I dont think your be shooting foxes at those distances with either of those scopes buddy .

 

[Jeff8861]

I dont think your be shooting foxes at those distances with either of those scopes buddy .

Both scopes are capable of doing that range. However for me it would be a no too many variables and I dont want to see an animal running off injured. I have done one at 400 only because it was just about to get in a pen and again this took two shots.

 

[Lloyd-holmes]

I dont think your be shooting foxes at those distances with either of those scopes buddy .

Why not? Does the image become too pixelated?

 

[Lloyd-holmes]

Both scopes are capable of doing that range. However for me it would be a no too many variables and I dont want to see an animal running off injured. I have done one at 400 only because it was just about to get in a pen and again this took two shots.

Most are shot within 300 yards but I’ve got some big open ground and it’s not always possible to get closer to them so every now and again I have to make long shots, my alpex makes relatively easy work of it with the pbir that’s on top. What variables would stop me doing with a thermal scope and ballistic calculator?….. obviously it’s not the sort of shot to take if there’s anything more than a breath of wind.

 

[Bo Diddley]

A pal shot a fox at 540 a couple of weeks ago using his AI in 6.5cm with a Nocpix on top. He does go for the long ones, but he's always shooting off a very stable shooting platform, almost a 4x4 bench rest set-up.

 

[rem284]

I dont think your be shooting foxes at those distances with either of those scopes buddy .

Aye, why would you feel the need to. Just increase the chance of having educated foxes or worse

 

[One on top of two]

A pal shot a fox at 540 a couple of weeks ago using his AI in 6.5cm with a Nocpix on top. He does go for the long ones, but he's always shooting off a very stable shooting platform, almost a 4x4 bench rest set-up.

I would have to see it to believe it , get him to send you the video and post it up here or youtube. theres not a man alive that wouldn't press the record button before pulling the trigger on a shot like that .

 

[Bo Diddley]

I would have to see it to believe it , get him to send you the video and post it up here or youtube. theres not a man alive that wouldn't press the record button before pulling the trigger on a shot like that .

He always records them. Ill see if I can get the video.
My longest is a touch under 400 yards off quad sticks, with a Hawke Vantage/Pard 007/PbirL, i only humped the rifle up on the quads to look at the bugger.. he was sitting in the edge of a wildbird cover looking at us, i felt so steady i decided to take a shot, hit him square in the bib, Ruger mk11 in .220 Swift, heavy barrel/lammy.

 

[One on top of two]

Both scopes are capable of doing that range. However for me it would be a no too many variables and I dont want to see an animal running off injured. I have done one at 400 only because it was just about to get in a pen and again this took two shots.

I will agree at 400 max but thats hard work as you well know, conditions have to be spot on , 100% perfect . But even then your target is only a 75%ID , and thats if you know what your looking at movement wise.

I have shot 400 yards plus at steel but i certainly wouldn't be happy shooting live quarry as i couldn't be certain of what ive hit until i go over .

I use a nocpix and think there fantastic , out of the two the OP has asked about the nocpix to my eyes was the clear winner . But for me personally 350 m for an experienced thermal shooter who knows his Onions is about the max distance .edit to say 350m to be reliable .

This is just an opinion .

 

[One on top of two]

He always records them. Ill see if I can get the video.
My longest is a touch under 400 yards off quad sticks, with a Hawke Vantage/Pard 007/PbirL, i only humped the rifle up on the quads to look at the bugger.. he was sitting in the edge of a wildbird cover looking at us, i felt so steady i decided to take a shot, hit him square in the bib, Ruger mk11 in .220 Swift, heavy barrel/lammy.

NV is a differnt kettle of fish , it just does suffer the same pixelation problems as thermal
My drone pro x10 will **** over any thermal you want to lay before it , again in the right conditions of course

 

[Lloyd-holmes]

NV is a differnt kettle of fish , it just does suffer the same pixelation problems as thermal
My drone pro x10 will **** over any thermal you want to lay before it , again in the right conditions of course

I agree with you on the whole NV wins over thermal when it comes to quarry ID and clarity, can’t fault my alpex at all…. Only gripe is that target acquisition isn’t always as quick as id like but maybe that’s just me….? I definitely find it quicker with thermal…. Plus the fact that if there’s a fox sat in light cover like nettles or thistle you can’t always pick it up with nv but you can with thermal…. Just my experience

 

[farrieral]

Not to hijack the thread but I have been reading with interest as I too am looking at the above two thermal scopes... had settled on the Nocpix 50R.

But... is the outlay worth it? For clarity I am looking to upgrade the original Alpex, yes, yes, old, ancient tech but I've shot 100s of foxes and many deer with it!

Now I'll be back out on my fox perms in prep for lambing... as I was last week and let a couple of foxes walk as the fog rolled in, I could see them through the thermal spotter but the NV was rendered useless. That irked me somewhat!

So have been looking at thermal ever since, are they a massive game changer or as with everything have their limitations?

Don't tend to shoot passed 250/300, as I can usually get closer on most of the ground I look after.

Thoughts and considerations?

 

[tarponhead]

I have new foxing ground and some similar challenges in terms of distance, but for me it’s a hunting challenge, not a kit challenge.

Sounds like the Alpex already gives good results. I’m not a thermal fan (yet) so reading this thread with interest.

 

[Colin G]

I will agree at 400 max but thats hard work as you well know, conditions have to be spot on , 100% perfect . But even then your target is only a 75%ID , and thats if you know what your looking at movement wise.

I have shot 400 yards plus at steel but i certainly wouldn't be happy shooting live quarry as i couldn't be certain of what ive hit until i go over .

I use a nocpix and think there fantastic , out of the two the OP has asked about the nocpix to my eyes was the clear winner . But for me personally 350 m for an experienced thermal shooter who knows his Onions is about the max distance .edit to say 350m to be reliable .

This is just an opinion .

Hi .
What magnification does the nocpix start to pixelate please

 

[Motard]

Very interesting thread to me. Since now I have self limited my night hunting distance by using a basic equipment: Talion XQ35 Pro thermal or Pard Sp700 NV (longhest shot with the last one was 330mt roe doe. Succesful, but would'be repeated). Spotting with Axion2 XQ and now Habrok35 4K. Italian dense timber habitat and legal limits (only boar hunting at night) does'nt make appealing spending more for a such limited activity. Nevertheless I am always curious on pushing personal & weapon's limit a bit far. That to say whay I was really intrigued in the fusion Thermal+NV announced by Pard some time ago and now apparently desappeared. Any news about?

 

[Blackwood Outdoors]

Price drop on these models goes live tomorrow

NocPix Ace H50R Thermal Scope

The NocPix Ace H50R thermal scope features a 12 micron full HD 640x480 resolution <15mk sensor and inbuilt inline LRF system.

www.blackwoodoutdoors.co.uk

NocPix Ace S60R Thermal Scope

The NocPix Ace S60R thermal scope features a 12 micron full HD 1280X1024 resolution <18mk sensor and inbuilt inline LRF system.

www.blackwoodoutdoors.co.uk

 

[Bo Diddley]

I would have to see it to believe it , get him to send you the video and post it up here or youtube. theres not a man alive that wouldn't press the record button before pulling the trigger on a shot like that .

You're correct... I spoke to him directly. 419 yards is the longest, 395 is the second longest.