African swine fever near Barcelona

Yes indeed. Collserola Park is so next to Barcelona and with so many visitors. The big issue however is a pending ban of all spanish pork products. EU rule says no pork products allowed to leave a union member state until cleared. Perhaps Catalonia or all of Spain will be export banned for 2 years. Pork products very important to Spain (jamon).
We had a similar incident in Sweden 2 years ago but luckily out in a rather unpopulated area. All hunting whatever was banned for a year in the territory. No entrance at all into the core area. Eventually the outbreak was contained and restrictions lifted after 2 yrs. It is now rather certain that the virus popped up at first in a communal open (unfenced) garbage dump in a forest. It was there most of the dead boars were found. Probably virus affected meat was dumped through regular garbage disposal.
 
And there is a huge outbreak of sheep and goat pox in Greece that is forcing farmers to cull entire flocks /herds which is threatening feta cheese production (it has AOC designation so can only be produced in Greece).

In this case some farmers have hidden sick animals or not reported deaths but continued to sell and move livestock a the government has done zip for over a year.

These diseases will get to our shores soon enough.
 
Well, bluetongue and schmallenberg weren’t here a few years ago but now are gracing our shores courtesy of midges and mozzies that never used to be able to live here, but now can because (don’t tell freeforrester) our climate has changed dramatically in the last 20 years to the point that these things can now survive our winters.

Same goes for ash dieback, horse chestnut leaf miner insects and a host of other stuff that is knackering our native species.
 
The climate changes it is true, it always has; but the mechanism by which the climate change is now being ‘explained’ by climate activists is patently false, it is not due to Man made carbon dioxide.

As for Ash dieback - ask the tree nurserymen how it arrived at our shores - persistent introduction from Polish nurseries of infected stock, licensed by the Forestry Commission ( a government body) — despite many repeated warnings of the likely consequences of doing so by those with skin in the game.IMG_0065.webp
The changing climate, Monday, Speyside..
 
The climate changes it is true, it always has; but the mechanism by which the climate change is now being ‘explained’ by climate activists is patently false, it is not due to Man made carbon dioxide.

As for Ash dieback - ask the tree nurserymen how it arrived at our shores - persistent introduction from Polish nurseries of infected stock, licensed by the Forestry Commission ( a government body) — despite many repeated warnings of the likely consequences of doing so by those with skin in the game.View attachment 449672
The changing climate, Monday, Speyside..
So explain the increasing rate of change that we are experiencing.
We know it’s bugger all to do with increasing solar activity (we have been there before)
 
So explain the increasing rate of change that we are experiencing.
We know it’s bugger all to do with increasing solar activity (we have been there before)
You are unable to explain the vagaries of the weather from one day to the next, and constantly make the incorrect assumption that correlation equals causation, something that has been conclusively proven, but which you refuse to acknowledge.

The ‘increasing rate of change’ is a myth. See how the temperature figures have been manipulated at Tom Nelson Podcast with Spiked’s Chris Morrison, episode 272. Funnily enough both the MET and NOAA have had to acknowledge this, but me while in the tropic of Tring…. Were it true, then snow would be a thing of the past, and even hysterical types such as yourself surely acknowledge that, like the vagaries of the weather, so the climate varies over time — as the records show down throughout the Earth’s history. No?

But since you ask, you will find that prior to any cooling event (- such as is heading our way between the present and the mid 2050’s) be that a full blown or indeed a mini ice age caused by a global lessening of solar irradiance ( not only affecting Earth’s climate but indeed the other planets, as NASA have recorded), the climate has always warmed just prior to when the subsequent cooling occurs — the simple FACT is that over time, the Sun varies its energy output, and has always done so.

The various ice ages, warm intervals are all testament to this.

Nor can it be shown that carbon dioxide, once saturate in the atmosphere as it now is, has the heating capacity ascribed to it by climate change alarmists and associated pickpockets.

Try to help yourself to understand by considering all the evidence, past present and predicted, as opposed to drinking the kool aid - basic physics and chemistry laws debunked the nonsense over a century ago.
 
You are unable to explain the vagaries of the weather from one day to the next, and constantly make the incorrect assumption that correlation equals causation, something that has been conclusively proven, but which you refuse to acknowledge.

The ‘increasing rate of change’ is a myth. See how the temperature figures have been manipulated at Tom Nelson Podcast with Spiked’s Chris Morrison, episode 272. Funnily enough both the MET and NOAA have had to acknowledge this, but me while in the tropic of Tring…. Were it true, then snow would be a thing of the past, and even hysterical types such as yourself surely acknowledge that, like the vagaries of the weather, so the climate varies over time — as the records show down throughout the Earth’s history. No?

But since you ask, you will find that prior to any cooling event (- such as is heading our way between the present and the mid 2050’s) be that a full blown or indeed a mini ice age caused by a global lessening of solar irradiance ( not only affecting Earth’s climate but indeed the other planets, as NASA have recorded), the climate has always warmed just prior to when the subsequent cooling occurs — the simple FACT is that over time, the Sun varies its energy output, and has always done so.

The various ice ages, warm intervals are all testament to this.

Nor can it be shown that carbon dioxide, once saturate in the atmosphere as it now is, has the heating capacity ascribed to it by climate change alarmists and associated pickpockets.

Try to help yourself to understand by considering all the evidence, past present and predicted, as opposed to drinking the kool aid - basic physics and chemistry laws debunked the nonsense over a century ago.
Nothing in our measured history can provide a naturally occurring reason for why our planet is warming so fast.
Historic climate change has taken millennia, not decades! So why is this now happening?

No significant solar flares, no significant volcanic or seismic activity, nothing, yet our planet is warming at a rate that is far faster than ever recorded and shows no sign of stopping.

Given that since WW2 we have cut down vast swaths of rain forest, have doubled our global population and massively increased our consumption of fossil fuels that were locked away underground, it’s hardly a surprise that things are going awry. It doesn’t take being a climatologist to see what is happening.

It has been scientifically proven that gases like co2 and ch4 produce a greenhouse effect, with ch4 having 10x the effect that co2 has, and with our continued consumption of fossil fuels and cutting down our forests and thawing tundra that is leaking millions of tons of once trapped ch4 into the atmosphere every year, we are tipping the balance - even the most one-eyed moron can see that it will have an impact.

Thing is, it’s inconvenient to accept that our lifestyles are screwing up the climate and making life harder for ourselves and other creatures we share this place with. We are arsehole tenants - the kind you would kick out if they rented your property, yet some feel a sense of entitlement to keep doing what they do no matter what is happening outside their own front door.

You live in speyside - lovely part of Scotland. How many snow days do you get now vs 30 years ago? How many more flood days??
I have been in the cairngorms in January and not seen a flake of snow on the ground - white ptarmigans hiding amongst brown heather!
Even you must notice these changes and the impact they have on your local area.

Your pseudoscience is merely an excuse to do nothing which only serves you to be both selfish and callous towards the environment in which you live.
 
Methane - the irrelevant Greenhouse Gas, with Dr Thomas P Sheahen - look it up. At 2 parts per million and a short life in the atmosphere, I don’t think it’s an issue. I know you won’t, but intelligent people might.

The pseudoscience and whataboutery is yours. A photon takes eight minutes to come from the Sun to Earth, the American megafauna were wiped out in a matter of hours, not miillenia. You might as well say since the invention of Strictly or Britain’s got talent that heating of the planet has risen dramatically ( it hasn’t, just the urbanisation of weather data collection points, as Chris Morrison has already debunked but you seem impervious to), so Strucly causes global warming. Causation and correlation are different things; you ascribe the current warming of the planet
to humankind. The Sun is the only significant warmer of our planet, and certainly not carbon dioxide, but again you tail against proven laws of physics and chemistry.

Ptarmigans live above the heather, by the way. Maybe in moss and lichen covered scree, but not heather. Nor do I live in Speyside.

You can no more teach that which you do not know than speak of places you have never been.
 
Facts
1- the sun provides us with light and heat. The amount of energy being received from the sun is relatively static
2- the earth’s position from the sun does change as part of our orbit but we know this and its effect on global temperature
3- the laws of thermodynamics state that matter cannot be destroyed, only converted from one form to another. Also that energy in = energy out plus energy stored.
4 - there are no other natural causes of global temperature rises

Given these 4 facts (which are indisputable) if the energy received millions of years ago which went into making trees / animals was subsequently locked away as a carbon based fuel, then that energy is stored.
If we then release that energy back into the atmosphere then it will add to the solar energy being received at that time, creating additional heat.
That’s called physics.

I don’t give a monkey’s f**k whether you disagree, but that is fact.

Co2 and methane are contributing factors by changing our atmospheric content, reducing the amount of energy that gets reflected back into space from the planet, thus the amount of retained solar energy increases.
Again, I don’t care if you dispute the effect of co2 on atmospheric warming - it’s been proven.

Think of sitting in a conservatory on a sunny day and turning a heater on. It gets hotter!!
It’s not rocket science, but clearly beyond some to grasp.
 
The sun is in solar cycle 25 .. an 11 Yr cycle when sunspot / flaring activity peaks then Abbs off till next peak 11yrs later....
Its peaking right now hence the increased auroras with each significant flare or cme

Paul
 
The sun is in solar cycle 25 .. an 11 Yr cycle when sunspot / flaring activity peaks then Abbs off till next peak 11yrs later....
Its peaking right now hence the increased auroras with each significant flare or cme

Paul
But that doesn’t account for the huge amounts of additional energy that would be needed to raise our air and sea temperatures as much as they have over the last 50 years.
If that was all down to solar flares then we would be toast.

Simple thermodynamics I’m afraid.
If we convert stored energy to heat then it adds to the energy entering our atmosphere and raises the temperature.

FWIW we are talking about huge amounts of energy needed to create the results we are seeing, and that isn’t all coming from the sun.
 
Well, bluetongue and schmallenberg weren’t here a few years ago but now are gracing our shores courtesy of midges and mozzies that never used to be able to live here, but now can because (don’t tell freeforrester) our climate has changed dramatically in the last 20 years to the point that these things can now survive our winters.
It's more interesting than just that. The increased temperature (regardless of cause) has changed the way the virus can circulate within the midges. For Bluetongue 8 the midge gut used to block the virus, now allows it through to the salivary glands. Schmallenberg seems to be an entirely new virus. It's cool stuff for those of us interested in disease ecology, but more than a little worrying.
 
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