HikMicro Alpex PRO A50PL Digital day & night scope - VERSUS - DNT ZULUS 4K Digital day & night scope - VERSUS - NocPix NITE D70R digital day & night

[Cottis]

agreed and the 395 was a one off. I see a lot of comments where peoples expectations and the budget dont match. But to be fair..my god has the quality improved in the last 10 years as has the price point. I bought one of the older DNT Zulus last week (ZHD 520) to go on the HMR and for sub £300 its brilliant.

Sorry if I went off piste

It will come I think in terms of a one size fits all solution but then lots of us have been saying that for the last 15yrs. We probably don't realize how lucky we are and I guess we take for granted how much technology has come on.

My guess is the Alpex Pro and Nocpix will get that bit closer to nirvana and the arms race will continue thereafter

 

[Mike1979]

It will come I think in terms of a one size fits all solution but then lots of us have been saying that for the last 15yrs. We probably don't realize how lucky we are and I guess we take for granted how much technology has come on.

My guess is the Alpex Pro and Nocpix will get that bit closer to nirvana and the arms race will continue thereafter

Agreed...I feel sad at the mo to see my Z6I sat there with the Alpex on the Creed...alas the extra 15 mins first and last light on the fallow forces such things. The Z6I will be on a QD monomount shortly ...but frankly the Alpex is more then good enough out to 250 yards during daylight hours to shoot deer.

The arms range benefits us with prices and innovation so long may that continue.

 

[Rural Management Services]

Having owned and used (a fair amount) Alpex 4K, Pard Nightstalker Pro Ex and DNT 30mm 4K I can tell you that the Pard is the best image when there is a light source. Either the sun during daytime or an IR at night. The reason for this is the higher base mag of 5.5x and the screen is far better than the other two as well. Take away that light source and it lags behind and the Alpex has 10-15 mins legs on the Pard. Dawn or dusk or dark without an IR then the Alpex 4K is still the bench mark as it just gathers light better than anything else on the market (note I say on the market as in for sale). The DNT is not far behind maybe (5 mins) at dawn and dusk, but the 4K still wins.

Currently I use a DNT 4K because it’s lighter and more compact than the Alpex and that tends to matter when you are carrying it allot.

 

[ShotKam 0]

It doesn't sound harsh but a little odd as you go on to say that you have shot at those distances. And a good many people do and not necessarily out of choice. If folk can get closer, I bet almost all of them do. That is no always possible depending on the ground and the fox.

I don't see anyone suggesting a digital scope costing a few hundred quid should be as good as a traditional optic costing in the thousands. This is (was) a thread comparing some recent digital offerings.

And it isn't unrealistic to have quality imaging at 400yds. Many of us have been enjoying this sort of performance for a long time. It is not unreasonable to want it in a unit that includes LRF and ballistic adjustment. It might be difficult for companies to produce but it is a perfectly valid "want"

Using .223 I just wish to have the scope out of the 3 listed, that performs the best at night out to around 200 mts, when I can't get closer for whatever reason. Pro's and cons for each unit but nightime clarity at distance nightime will be the deciding factor. Spoke to a man from Nocpix who came to the Show to support a major Nocpix retailer, So to dispell the rumours, they actually delayed release because there was a very minor glitch with one setting in the menu that the average user would never encounter. Nevertheless they decided to ensure this was resolved before launch, even though they would loose sales to other brands in the meantime. Some retailers put out other incorrect messages why there was a delay. I am happy to wait.

 

[Rural Management Services]

Further to the above I like 1000’s of others looked through an Alpex Pro on the weekend and I am sceptical that it will perform as well as the Alpex 4K without IR. It doesn’t seem to have the hardware optically to manage it and even when pressed the head guy from Elite wouldn’t commit on th4 subject. The only comment was “we are going to spend the next 6-8 weeks testing it under UK conditions.

 

[sauer]

You can't get a like for like review of title items until all of em are out in hands of mainstream folks..... 2 of em aren't available yet !

 

[ShotKam 0]

Further to the above I like 1000’s of others looked through an Alpex Pro on the weekend and I am sceptical that it will perform as well as the Alpex 4K without IR. It doesn’t seem to have the hardware optically to manage it and even when pressed the head guy from Elite wouldn’t commit on th4 subject. The only comment was “we are going to spend the next 6-8 weeks testing it under UK conditions.

Fair comment. I spent little time looking through any the scopes inside an artificially lit industrial building. Surely the Hikmicro testing should have been done long before launch. The Alpex Pro turret Zoom feature was revolutionary, I liked that and the sensor has been upgraded along with the software. As others say, we all think what we have is the best, which is why I wish to see UK side by side night time comparisons at range. I spend a heap of time researching spotters before buying the Nocpix H35R and it was well worth it. Sometimes I think we expect too much for little cost. The personal feedback people are posting on the above units is priceless.

 

[ShotKam 0]

You can't get a like for like review of title items until all of em are out in hands of mainstream folks..... 2 of em aren't available yet !

Demo D70R have been out there since October 2025 and some dealer's have had the Hik Pro for a while now.

 

[sauer]

You want honest reviews ?
Wait till its in the hands of the masses

When you ever hear a reviewer or dealer give a bad review or admit outright which product is actually better than another ?

Paul

 

[Rural Management Services]

You want honest reviews ?
Wait till its in the hands of the masses

When you ever hear a reviewer or dealer give a bad review or admit outright which product is actually better than another ?

Paul

I like to think that some of my thermal and NV reviews have been pretty unbiased. I don’t sell scopes or thermal and everything was purchased with my own money so not beholden to anyone.

 

[palo]

I like to think that some of my thermal and NV reviews have been pretty unbiased. I don’t sell scopes or thermal and everything was purchased with my own money so not beholden to anyone.

I really like your reviews. They are honest and unbiased as far as I can see.
The problem with dealers giving reviews is they are selling all the brands so they can't really say one brand scope is better than the other.

 

[Tugmanade]

Just watched a small clip on YouTube of a Pard Nightstalker V2 about to hit the market in April apparently, base mag of x7 up to x31 (I think that’s what they said), think it’ll be a narrow FOV, 2.9 was muted. Talk about spoil for choice

 

[Brave Echo Niner]

 

[Ronin]

The Alpen LRF is very good for low light (hour before and after sunset / sunrise)

Under moonlight the unit needs no illuminator

Had mine two years - very impressed

no pics - well how many do you hear that are faulty and being returned

Looked at the Alpen Pro - non starter for me

If I was to upgrade, I would be saving for the 3.5 k Hik Thermal scope

 

[Pellet Pinger]

Well that does look pants. You could blame it on the IR but my Alpex 4K gives a far better image than that with a 40 quid LED!

 

[tarponhead]

I would agree with that. I feel these modern 4k scopes are perfect for my needs and those of the people on this forum who want to shoot as many deer as possible at the most difficult times of the day. Already I have shot animals that I simply would not have got close to shooting before and I have barely take the thing out of the box.

I suppose for most night shooting (for me anyway) all my shots are taken inside 200yds, so there really is no benefit to having an LRF and ballistic calculator for night time shooting. But I would think that professional fox shooters or those needing to shoot over vast fields or in valleys would benefit hugely from a scope that offers LRF and ballistic calcs while also being able to resolve high quality imaging out to say 350-400yds.

So basically I am happy but I can see there is further work to be done to satisfy widescale demand

Good point - I’m considering a day/night scope for my 6.5x55 and nearly caught up in the hype surrounding the Alpex Pro, but do I really need the ballistic calculator? One excuse I would have might be to have different profiles for different bullet weights - but to undo that argument, I shot three different weights to almost the same POI at the range on Sunday. So I could save some cash and buy a barebones day/night scope without the BC and LRF. But which one? The Alpex Pro comes with software that improves the image significantly…so round and round the arguments, I go!

 

[Grand Slam]

Well that does look pants. You could blame it on the IR but my Alpex 4K gives a far better image than that with a 40 quid LED!

I was thinking the same thing. That picture quality looks proper poor.

 

[Phil fox man]

I've been toying with the idea of a digital scope for a year or so but all the reviews don't fit the criteria I need.
I'm not bothered about daytime use but it would come in handy sometimes.
I've used a night force nxs with an archer
on the rear for over 20 years.
my question is, how good will they be compared to my set up?
I shoot on 12 power and alot of my shots due to the terrain are over 200yds out to 350yds.
I'm shooting from a good restaurant most of the time though.
has anyone any footage of 200yds to 300 yds at 12 power they could post please.

 

[Will the chippy]

I've been toying with the idea of a digital scope for a year or so but all the reviews don't fit the criteria I need.
I'm not bothered about daytime use but it would come in handy sometimes.
I've used a night force nxs with an archer
on the rear for over 20 years.
my question is, how good will they be compared to my set up?
I shoot on 12 power and alot of my shots due to the terrain are over 200yds out to 350yds.
I'm shooting from a good restaurant most of the time though.
has anyone any footage of 200yds to 300 yds at 12 power they could post please.View attachment 461071

I was just thinking that with various image quality questions, what's wrong with the old phoshor nv. Yes you dont get lrf and ballistic stuff but battery life would be almost a non issue. And no fiddling with different reticles and loosing zero as a couple of my mates have done changing various profiles etc.
I like simple, simple works and your setup hasn't had to change with fashions etc.

 

[jackblack56]

Good point - I’m considering a day/night scope for my 6.5x55 and nearly caught up in the hype surrounding the Alpex Pro, but do I really need the ballistic calculator? One excuse I would have might be to have different profiles for different bullet weights - but to undo that argument, I shot three different weights to almost the same POI at the range on Sunday. So I could save some cash and buy a barebones day/night scope without the BC and LRF. But which one? The Alpex Pro comes with software that improves the image significantly…so round and round the arguments, I go!

I'd hang off 6-8 weeks till the reviews/footage comes out