"Something's wrong: we haven't suffered enough" (Annual Chinese water deer foray)

Hello everyone. I haven't posted one of these for a while, but last weekend, what has now become an annual event rekindled my enjoyment of stalking and made me want to share that again. For the past few years, @JMikeyH has been a guest on our little syndicate shoot, and in return very generously invites those of us who stalk for a day stalking Chinese water deer on his ground. It's not actually transactional like that, and really it's because of a shared love of wild mushrooms, but I'm grateful that he gives reminds me why I love stalking deer. Now usually, stalking on this ground involves crawling through muddy fields, getting stuck trying to go through hedges, infuriatingly bumping deer or them running off at the last second. Once it was so windy that a gust made me miss my shot. There is very little cover so it's all about hugging the contours of the terrain and hoping that when you peer over the ridge, they're still there. I know people say water deer are easy to stalk, but not on this ground theyr'e not! They sit out in the middle of a field with no means of approaching them without being seen, just out of range, showing just the tips of their ears. You always see plenty but trying to go anywhere near them is a different matter.

Anyway, this weekend, I arrived at the ground a little after dawn, and as always, @JMikeyH said "These are just about the worst possible conditions". This doesn't phase me anymore, I take it as given that I should have been there yesterday or should come back tomorrow. From the start, we can see a deer curled up in the middle of a big flock of geese. Nice trick. Let's leave that one then. It's 7.40am when we head into the field. We spot a deer curled up at the far end of a field, and decide to head towards it which involves a large detour around the edges and hedges to stay upwind, thinking we may encounter others on the way. We bump one in a scrubby corner, and finally start following the hedge close to which we'd seen the deer, keeping below the skyline as we hope it's just over the brow of the slope. Another deer appears from the hedge on the way, sees us, and runs past, but crucially away from the one we're stalking so doesn't scare it. Eventually, we see tips of ears over the ridge. Now here's where a first happens. J says "There's a head shot if you want it". I have never taken a head shot. But somehow, being told that gives me the confidence that I can. This is where the 4-Stable Sticks come into their own, as the rest feels completely solid, no wobble at all, I place the crosshairs in the deer's right ear and BANG. And it rolls over, flailing around a bit. That was too easy.

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As I said I've not head shot a deer before, and it's surprising - not in a pleasant way - that despite having bits of its' brain on the ground around it, the deer keeps kicking periodically for ten minutes. No eye reflex, and it's not breathing, it's dead as a doornail, so no suffering caused, but still. It's a healthy two year old buck and I have to say it was nice for once to have an intact carcass to deal with.

And it's while processing the deer, when I finally looked on the 5.5kg of beautiful veal-like venison that I once again felt the desire to share the story. The stalk itself was untypically straightforward, but it's in the preparation and eating that it all comes together and makes sense. So thank you J!

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(I am not sponsored by 4 Stable Stick, Steyr-Mannlicher or Fox bullets)
 
The nerve reaction to a headshot can be significant - I’ve seen deer clearing the ground with twitches!
Even had a hoof in the face from one once - taught me to let it subside before going in with the knife!!
But cwd in the middle of big fields is my every day stalking situation and it’s really tough to get into them without being spotted.
 
All textbook CWD behaviour in my experience! Hiding in the margins, impossible to see, easy to bump. Otherwise found sat in the middle of a field with no points of access. Then of course when they do run, they just keep going. Agree headshots can be a bit gruesome, but certainly effective. Great write up, and I'm sure it'll be delicious!
 
Good stuff and well done on the head shot. You clearly felt confident in taking it, which is the main thing.

The meat does look very appetising.

K
Thanks K. Yes, it felt fine. I'd been thinking of ditching the Stable Sticks as I hadn't really seen much benefit but there's no way I'd have taken that shot without them.

The venison is a firm family favourite, I mostly use it the way I would veal, it's a great substitute, especially given how hard it is to find any in the UK.
 
If this bothers you, don't even consider cleaning a turtle. Wonderful meat, but such a primitive reflex system - once ran out of light after cleaning several snapping turtles, so the last two I beheaded and left on the stoop to be cleaned first thing in the morning. They were gone the next morning - and I found them hung up in the fence about 100 yards away. Unsure how far they would have gotten had they not hit the fence.

Oh - and if you pull the heart out of turtle and throw in water it will still be beating 24 hours later.
 
As a clearly competent cook if you saved the pluck, try haggis, very easy once you get your head round to it.
Well done, i need to shoot some next month
 
As a clearly competent cook if you saved the pluck, try haggis, very easy once you get your head round to it.
Well done, i need to shoot some next month
Well J took the liver in a Brittany Ferries sick bag from my car, and i had the devilled kidneys on toast for breakfast the next day. My wife was forced to eat too much offal as a child and that has put her off for life. I am keen not to repeat this. Besides, the kidneys are MY treat.
 
Well J took the liver in a Brittany Ferries sick bag from my car, and i had the devilled kidneys on toast for breakfast the next day. My wife was forced to eat too much offal as a child and that has put her off for life. I am keen not to repeat this. Besides, the kidneys are MY treat.
If either of you enjoy haggis, made from deer is very good.
I made several the other year and had a burns supper, a mate who is scottish still talks about it.
After reading about peppered hare haggis will be a doddle
 
I once consumed 17 squirrel kidneys in one open-air brunch sitting and lived to tell this tail! Fat from bacon and/or sausage is your best freind. No sick bag required!

K
Is that the kidneys from 9 squirrels nearly or 17 squirrels kidneys?
Either way my kind of brunch.
I made sausages from 35 squirrels and saved the fat to make bird feeders.
Love a squirrel
 
Well done PM 👍 always good to read about you getting out & about, not to mention your success & the knowledge that the carcass will be feeding you & yours.

Head shot a roe doe the other morning & after dropping it in its own shadow panicked a bit when it suddenly started to kick about - thought I’d cocked it up & only stunned it & it was going to get up & run off. I hadn’t & it didn’t!

I head shot a roe doe at close quarters some years back, in a young ash plantation. Hung it in a tree & did a suspended gralloch pretty much as soon as I’d shot it - the heart was still beating 😳
 
Well done PM 👍 always good to read about you getting out & about, not to mention your success & the knowledge that the carcass will be feeding you & yours.

Head shot a roe doe the other morning & after dropping it in its own shadow panicked a bit when it suddenly started to kick about - thought I’d cocked it up & only stunned it & it was going to get up & run off. I hadn’t & it didn’t!

I head shot a roe doe at close quarters some years back, in a young ash plantation. Hung it in a tree & did a suspended gralloch pretty much as soon as I’d shot it - the heart was still beating 😳
That sounds like a pretty unpleasant experience to say the least. I was once gutting a pike in a friends kitchen and it started thrashing around flinging its' entrails about the place. Luckily there was no-one else in the room at the time. That sent my heart racing.

I've actually done more game shooting than stalking for the past 2 or 3 years so have had fewer stories to share. Circumstances change as do opportunities, but I'd like to do more stalking this year if I can fit it in. I also want to pay BSRC a visit, partly because my SCC has expired but also just because I miss it. Haven't been since the "eviction"...
 
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