Notification of Disposal

[Canine]

Hello all,

I’m doing a bit of research and just wondered if you could help me out by answering this poll please… if you can I’d really appreciate it.

Essentially, I just want to know if people are aware that they have to notify the police of disposal of firearms/shotguns and not just acquisitions…

For reference, Section 33 of the Firearms Act 1997 states:

(1) This Section applies where in Great Britain -

1. any firearm to which section 1 of the 1968 Act applies is sold, let on hire, lent or given;
2. any shot gun is sold, let on hire or given, or lent for a period of more than 72 hours.

(2) Any party to a transfer to which this section applies who is the holder of a firearm or shot gun certificate or, as the case may be, a visitor's firearm or shot gun permit which relates to the firearm in question shall within seven days of the transfer give notice to the chief officer of police who granted his certificate or permit.


(3) A notice required by subsection (2) above shall-

1. contain a description of the firearm in question (giving its identification number if any); and
2. state the nature of the transaction and the name and address of the other party;

and any such notice shall be sent by permitted means

(A notice is sent by permitted means for the purposes of subsection (3) if it is sent)

1. by registered post;
2. by the recorded delivery service; or
3. by permitted electronic means (see section 35A).

(4) A failure by a party to a transaction to which this section applies to give the notice required by this section shall be an offence.

 

[VSS]

My understanding is that it is the disposers responsibility to notify of transfers, not the acquirers, so yes I did know.

Read the notes on the last page of your FAC. Section 33 of the act. Requires notification of disposals, not acquisitions.

In practice, what tends to happen, is that both parties notify, just to be on the safe side.

 

[CookM]

I have always had both parties do it,and when holding shotguns for a few older shooters for whatever reason helped them through the process on their own phones.
Easy enough.

 

[Canine]

My understanding is that it is the disposers responsibility to notify of transfers, not the acquirers, so yes I did know.

In practice, what tends to happen, is that both parties notify, just to be on the safe side.

Hello mate, thanks for the reply.

 

[VSS]

Hello mate, thanks for the reply.

See also the extra bit I just added to my post.

 

[Canine]

I have always had both parties do it,and when holding shotguns for a few older shooters for whatever reason helped them through the process on their own phones.
Easy enough.

Definitely the correct way to do it - Thanks for the reply

 

[CookM]

Definitely the correct way to do it - Thanks for the reply

A pleasure.

 

[VSS]

Definitely the correct way to do it - Thanks for the reply

The correct (legal) way, or just because we feel it's better/safer that way?

 

[Canine]

See also the extra bit I just added to my post.

Noted, thank you… and this is exactly why I’m asking the question. The wording on the Certificate differs to that of Section 33 listed in legislation…

 

[Canine]

The correct (legal) way, or just because we feel it's better/safer that way?

My interpretation is that it’s the correct, legal way as per Section 33 in Legislation, not what’s on the Certificate… As “any party to a transfer” includes the giver and receiver…?

2) Any party to a transfer to which this section applies who is the holder of a firearm or shot gun certificate or, as the case may be, a visitor's firearm or shot gun permit which relates to the firearm in question shall within seven days of the transfer give notice to the chief officer of police who granted his certificate or permit.

 

[VSS]

Noted, thank you… and this is exactly why I’m asking the question. The wording on the Certificate differs to that of Section 33 listed in legislation…

The wording on the certificate says that we must notify disposal. So yes, we're all aware of that. Why wouldn't we be?
In the light of that, your question doesn't quite make sense.
If you had asked "were we aware that we had to notify of acquisitions within 7 days" then you could reasonably have expected lots of people to answer in the negative.

 

[Canine]

The wording on the certificate says that we must notify disposal. So yes, we're all aware of that. Why wouldn't we be?
In the light of that, your question doesn't quite make sense.
If you had asked "were we aware that we had to notify of acquisitions within 7 days" then you could reasonably have expected lots of people to answer in the negative.

Ah yes, good call. I shall change it… much appreciated

Just realised I can’t change it. Oh well… has served a purpose regardless

 

[jb1]

In the past pre emails I've always gone for both, belt and braces. Even recently I've posted AND scanned and emailed, again belt and braces. They do tend to loose stuff now and again.

 

[VSS]

So someone messed up when writing the notes to go on the back page of our FAC.
Is that basically what you're saying?

 

[Canine]

So someone messed up when writing the notes to go on the back page of our FAC.
Is that basically what you're saying?

Yeah, I don’t think it is reflective of Section 33.

This is something that I am looking at currently so leave it with me and I’ll get a complete answer.

 

[jb1]

So someone messed up when writing the notes to go on the back page of our FAC.
Is that basically what you're saying?

It is all there as you say, always have a read of the guidelines written, if your still not sure ask.

 

[VSS]

It is all there as you say, always have a read of the guidelines written, if your still not sure ask.

I've always just followed the guidelines printed on the FAC.
For example, you buy a rifle from an rfd and he handles the notification of transfer, as per the requirements printed on the FAC.

 

[Canine]

I've always just followed the guidelines printed on the FAC.
For example, you buy a rifle from an rfd and he handles the notification of transfer, as per the requirements printed on the FAC.

I completely understand that - It makes total sense to me, but I just think there are some issues with the wording. If you’re interested I’ll let you know what answer I get…

 

[VSS]

I completely understand that - It makes total sense to me, but I just think there are some issues with the wording. If you’re interested I’ll let you know what answer I get…

Is it a boat worth rocking?

 

[Canine]

Is it a boat worth rocking?

Probably not… but might save someone some hassle down the line I guess. We’ll see