Home made .243 from 22lr cases 101

Simjim33

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Here is how you can make your own bullets!
No special presses needed just a set of dies (I got mine from Joe bloggs of this site).
Swaging is not dark magic. Or over complicated and you can produce some cracking bullets. Some would say better than the stuff you can buy. In the long run they will be far cheaper too.

I will now let the pictures do the talking, as they can explain it better than I can type it.

ENJOY!!

First we need a set of dies. They look like this. Going from left to right, we have the de-rim die, core swage, core seat, and lastly point form(this one has a hollow point punch)
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We also need a longer handle for the press. no further modification is now needed.
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Lets cut some lead cores. We are using wire,but you can get core moulds.
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Now lube the case.

Then we will need to put a bit of lube on the punch. I use 3 in 1 it seems to work ok. You will not need much at all, in fact just wipe it over the punch with your fingers after you have lubed the case. You MUST Lube the punch it or you will get the case stuck in the die.

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Place the case over the punch and operate the press.
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A nicely de-rimmed case.
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Remember those cores we cut? well now we change dies and swage them this will regulate the core as any excess will be trimmed.

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You can now see the difference.

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Before we seat the cores we had better anneal the now formed ex 22lr jacket. So into some heat until it gets cherry red. Then dunk into some water to cool and blow dry with an air line if you have one. If not leave to dry before you go to the next step.

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Now we will seat the cores into the jackets and in so doing make the first swage.

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After it will look like this. The core is nicely seated.

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Next we make the bullet ogive using the point form die. the punch I have is a hollow pointer, it makes a great hunting bullet

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So there you go!

I'm off to the range on monday so i will post some pictures of the targets to show grouping.
 

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Nice work! Have you found that different makes of casings affect the finished product?
~Muir
 
Nice work! Have you found that different makes of casings affect the finished product?
~Muir

No not really, all makes work. But I have some that fail when de-riming. It makes no difference what make they are TBH. I think it when I dont lube them enough. Or it could just be week brass. About 1 in 12 fail. But then they are free.
 
Oooo. Feeling a little green with envy. That is a beautiful die set.~Muir
 
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thats a great write up and a step by step im pleased its all working well they look great ,atb wayne
 
Great stuff. I have bought projectiles made from 22 cases before. Some were alright. Whats the best accuracy you rekon you can extract from these.
How musch does the die set cost?
 
Are they better than Corbins product?
Martin


I think you have to judge the finished product to get that answer.

Sorry about the next set of pictures they come from a iPhone!

It's not really a fair comparison but the bullet on the left is a Factory 100 grain soft point, the bullet on the right is a home swaged .243 from 22lr.
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As you can see the finish is superb if you put a little time into polishing them (completely unnecessary in my view).
The dies also do little things, like put a slight flair on the lip of the case as you de-rim it. You can just about see it in this picture.
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Things like that make all the difference.

Plus you know that feeling when you have made your first batch of ammo! You go down the range and they group really well! That feeling gets better 100X when you swage your own.

Are they better than Corbin? ABSOLUTELY!!!!!
 
it looks really impressive from what i read on your previous posts you had them turned around really quickly unlike corbin , what weight are you making?. I am looking at doing my 300 win when i get sorted,atb wayne
 
Great stuff. I have bought projectiles made from 22 cases before. Some were alright. Whats the best accuracy you rekon you can extract from these.
How musch does the die set cost?

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Paper Basil Brush thinks they suck!

I have a feeling that MR & MRS CDW, MUNTIE AND ROE are not going to like them ether.
I will post pictures of grouping on "proper" targets after monday. But I suspect that @ 100yards they will be 1/2 inch if I do my part (I have changed the scope on the rifle now, so I can now see the target in the cross hairs better. The stalking scope on normal targets was "challenging" hence why we got Basil out. But some of those holes had two bullets going through them, so I am being cautious).

As for cost!
These dies are a result of a continuing project that Joe is undertaking. He had already done a set of 22lr-.224 for himself. So I think it is fair to say that currently this set should be considered a one off.

That said, if there is enough genuine interest from the forum on this, PM me your details and we will look into maybe getting some thing organised. Perhaps we could find some way of getting a small sample of bullets for you to try out!
 
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it looks really impressive from what i read on your previous posts you had them turned around really quickly unlike corbin , what weight are you making?. I am looking at doing my 300 win when i get sorted,atb wayne

Hi Wayne,

Any news on your situation yet?

The bullets in the picture are 68 grain hollow point "thumpers"
But the dies can make any weight up to around 100 grains! Using 22wmr cases (we have yet to test those).

.30 call would be better suited to copper jackets. 5/16 air con tubbing annealed then drawn down to .308 would be your best bet and make very good bullets too. As you have a swage press I have been told by Joe that, swage presses are easier to make dies for. As the dies are not so big.
 
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hi mate i am still waiting for things to get sorted i have done quite abit on the press so will be putting it together soon but i have been stacked out at work so my projects have been stopped till i finish everyone elses work . but still want my stock doing when i get my court thing sorted its now gone to nov 5th . typically though i have a crack in my parker hale stock and have been looking at the boyds for a cheap stock to get me up and running on that rifle while i get my stutzen re done otherwise i will be without a rifle. atb wayne . just going back to your bullets is it nessesary to qwench your cases after heating i was under the impression you let them cool naturally
 
hi mate i am still waiting for things to get sorted i have done quite abit on the press so will be putting it together soon but i have been stacked out at work so my projects have been stopped till i finish everyone elses work . but still want my stock doing when i get my court thing sorted its now gone to nov 5th . typically though i have a crack in my parker hale stock and have been looking at the boyds for a cheap stock to get me up and running on that rifle while i get my stutzen re done otherwise i will be without a rifle. atb wayne . just going back to your bullets is it nessesary to qwench your cases after heating i was under the impression you let them cool naturally


No! I dunk them. I do lube the cases/bullets at each step though. It has helped bed the dies in nicely!
 
well you made me do some searching on tinterweb and i never knew brass doesnt go hard with heating and rapid cooling ,that is very interesting,atb wayne
 
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