Blaser, love them or hate them?

[Vipa]

Notice I was talking about the furoe caused prior to WW1 over the Ross straight pull and especially the .280 version. Due to the very high operating pressures of the 280 cartridge this magnified any error. Eley introduced a .280 Nitro which was loaded to lower pressures for those who like the cartridge but wanted say a Mauser rifle as it was soon proved that even the Mauser 98 suffered lug set back at the Ross 280 Pressures.

I seriously doubt that the Blaser collet would withstand use for long if chambered for the 280 Ross loaded as Sir Charles meant it to be. Sorry I don't know what the pressure would be in modern speak but the Ross 280 Proof marks are at 28 Tons where as the 270 Win is only 19 tons and if I recall correctly the 300 Win Mag was 20 Tons.

This is why Ross copied the idea of the Cannon screw breech to handle the pressures.

As for suing Blaser well for a start one would need very deep pockets and one would need to find a lawyer willing to take the case. many won't touch anything to do with legitimate firearms ownership.

Brit.. I respect your knowledge of firearms but the last sentence is tosh... if Remmington can be sued I'm damned sure Blaser could!
http://www.yourlawyer.com/topics/overview/remington-defective-triggers-lawyer-lawsuit-attorney

 

[achosenman]

As for suing Blaser well for a start one would need very deep pockets and one would need to find a lawyer willing to take the case. many won't touch anything to do with legitimate firearms ownership.

Sorry mate wrong.

​All you need is the right insurance package, normally included with house contents. You then have a very large fund and lawyers on tap to do battle on your behalf.

Been there done that on four occasions...and very sucsessfully too.



ATB

 

[Thar]

Sorry mate wrong.

​All you need is the right insurance package, normally included with house contents. You then have a very large fund and lawyers on tap to do battle on your behalf.

Been there done that on four occasions...and very sucsessfully too.



ATB

If hypothetically a manufacture made a firearm that said had plastic in the action and that action then failed causing injury to the person that brought it, do you think that person would have a good case of bringing a successful court case?

The critical part being that most people know there is a lot of heat and pressure in a firearm and plastic would not be a suitable material to use in a critical pressure bearing part of the action, hence the manufacture was negligent in his design and manufacture of the product?

What’s your opinion based on your successful legal actions?

ATB

Tahr

 

[Tackleberry270]

If hypothetically a manufacture made a firearm that said had plastic in the action and that action then failed causing injury to the person that brought it, do you think that person would have a good case of bringing a successful court case?

The critical part being that most people know there is a lot of heat and pressure in a firearm and plastic would not be a suitable material to use in a critical pressure bearing part of the action, hence the manufacture was negligent in his design and manufacture of the product?

What’s your opinion based on your successful legal actions?

ATB

Tahr

ooh, very clever. Back on topic again. I think each thread should have a nominated chair person to do this. You would be very good at it!

 

[Thar]

ooh, very clever. Back on topic again. I think each thread should have a nominated chair person to do this. You would be very good at it!

Why back on topic? it could be any manufacture of any firearm, perhaps it is a legal question more than anything else?

ATB

Tahr

 

[achosenman]

If hypothetically a manufacture made a firearm that said had plastic in the action and that action then failed causing injury to the person that brought it, do you think that person would have a good case of bringing a successful court case?

The critical part being that most people know there is a lot of heat and pressure in a firearm and plastic would not be a suitable material to use in a critical pressure bearing part of the action, hence the manufacture was negligent in his design and manufacture of the product?

What’s your opinion based on your successful legal actions?

ATB

Tahr

My opinion based on my past experience is you first have to have a good case.

You cannot bring legal action against a company for vexatious reasons or simply because you are bored. I suspect you being something of a barrack room lawyer want to get into the minutiae, but I responded to the premise that most normal persons cannot afford legal action against a person or large company. I refuted that. Two of the companies I took to court were significantly larger than Blaser.

If an action is not fit for purpose due to a design flaw, it should be relatively easy to prove with proper investigation with qualified engineers, not some internet warrior who believes they know better. It therefore matters not what the material is made from, as long as it is fit for purpose.

ATB

 

[Thar]

If an action is not fit for purpose due to a design flaw, it should be relatively easy to prove with proper investigation with qualified engineers, not some internet warrior who believes they know better. It therefore matters not what the material is made from, as long as it is fit for purpose.

ATB

So the injured person then has an independent engineers report carried out, there conclusion is the product is flawed, the manufacture accepts the finding and modifies the product to address the failings, but refuses to pay out to the injured party because of a technicality. What would your view of that company be?

ATB

Tahr

 

[achosenman]

So the injured person then has an independent engineers report carried out, there conclusion is the product is flawed, the manufacture accepts the finding and modifies the product to address the failings, but refuses to pay out to the injured party because of a technicality. What would your view of that company be?

ATBTahr

You are merely repeating hearsay.

If the injured party did indeed have a real claim, it would have been pursued with the utmost vigour. There are a legion of legal professional litigators who are not awed by any company in existence. If, as you claim the manufacturer accepted the assertion of a flawed design, that is tacit admission of legal liability. Since you say that no settlement was forthcoming, something about your story does not add up.

If you have the irrefutable documentary proof of what you claim, (and by that I don't mean accusations posted on line) why don't you get together with all the injured shooters out there and start a class action?

ATB

 

[Brithunter]

Brit.. I respect your knowledge of firearms but the last sentence is tosh... if Remmington can be sued I'm damned sure Blaser could!
http://www.yourlawyer.com/topics/overview/remington-defective-triggers-lawyer-lawsuit-attorney

America is a whole different ball game. Here in the UK unless one has loads of money just try it.

 

[Vipa]

So the injured person then has an independent engineers report carried out, there conclusion is the product is flawed, the manufacture accepts the finding and modifies the product to address the failings, but refuses to pay out to the injured party because of a technicality. What would your view of that company be?

ATB

Tahr

Show us thar.. I want to see the documents.. Until I see proof that Blaser admitted liability and a fault with thier product I will just continue along my original line of thought that you are spouting utter crap.. your posts are IMHO getting potentially more libelous every time!

 

[Vipa]

Tell that to the banks who have had to set aside billions to placate claims companies for allegedly missold PPI... There are plenty of ambulance chasing law firms in the UK, don't you worry.. the bigger the target, the more interest they will show!

 

[Brithunter]

Ahhh also bear in mind that the original Blaser company no longer exists. There was a merger which makes it awkward to chase claims over rifles from the original company.

 

[achosenman]

Ahhh also bear in mind that the original Blaser company no longer exists. There was a merger which makes it awkward to chase claims over rifles from the original company.

No it doesn't. The merger does not absolve the new company of previous liability.

ATB

 

[willie_gunn]

Wa-hay, eighteen pages and now we're into talk of legal action

We'd best prepare "the sword of truth and the trusty shield of British fair play"

Thank Heavens I'm out stalking this afternoon - the real world at last.

willie_gunn

 

[Roedinator]

Wa-hay, eighteen pages and now we're into talk of legal action We'd best prepare "the sword of truth and the trusty shield of British fair play" Thank Heavens I'm out stalking this afternoon - the real world at last. willie_gunn

willie me too
thursday lovely evening stalk in the new forest on some fallow bagged a pricket
friday. Devon fantastic day on some very high pheasants but did them justice
sat Devon a day with the boy feeding and lamping
sunday. Dorset fitasc inter counties final vey testing shoot came 4 th overall chuffed
sunday afternoon Armchair to see tahr is still spouting utter crap

Regards pete

 

[finnbear270]

Pete, Dom,I really hate it when I hear this, sitting here in my deer desert!

 

[Roedinator]

Pete, Dom,I really hate it when I hear this, sitting here in my deer desert!

We might be able to sort that one day Steve
I don't mind helping out genuine guys like yourself
see if we can't sort a trip out down to deer city
​Regards pete

 

[Thar]

sunday afternoon Armchair to see tahr is still spouting utter crap

that you are spouting utter crap..your posts are IMHO getting potentially more libelous every time!

I have observed that some of you Blaser owners post’s get very emotional, venomous even, then start to use bad language, if somebody criticizing your choice of rifle on the internet draws this response I have to wonder how calm and balanced you would be if somebody where to criticize a loved one or treated you in a way that you thought was disrespectful in person?

Stop and think for one moment, if the information about the failed Blaser was inaccurate given the amount of time it has been on the internet don’t you think Blaser lawyers would have brought legal action and got it removed, now those you have made potently libelous posts against the Blaser owner who was injured might want to think on before you post.

Guys don’t worry about me and Stalking I have given up 7,000 acres this year, then just turn down another 1,000 acres this week as I can’t find the time to stalk the rest of the land I do have. Just very poor attempt at personal insults when you have lost the rational argument.

Nearly £1,500 for a fluted barrel for a Blaser, bargain? fair price?

ATB

Tahr

 

[timbrayford]

I have observed that some of you Blaser owners post’s get very emotional, verminous even,
ATB

Tahr

I'm scratching my head about that one!

atb Tim

 

[Offroad Gary]

I think £1500 (if they were that, you need to take a price/reality check) would be a fair price for an off the shelf, ready to have now, match quality, fluted, nitride coated barrel. How much would a top smith charge to fit a match quality fluted barrel and have it tuftrided or similar? Its going to be north of a grand, plus the wait, without the switch barrel facility or the compactness the system offers.

god im almost wishing i still had one of them.