LandRover dealership visit
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I think they all do pretty much. For a car that has survived in various incarnations since not long after WW2 up to present, you'd think they must be doing something right. They all hold their value. I suspect when it's replaced, the current Defender's second hand prices, unlike many superseded vehicles, will not only hold but increase.
palmer_mike
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Reminds me of some shotguns I saw for sale somewhere, lol
tackb
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excellent , so once you cotton on to the baiting about land rovers we can start baiting you about blasers...........
what about tracking dogs and 243win ?
I. Farticus
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...and head shooting at 500 yards with Amax
RED-DOT
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When people say "no issues" I am a little doubtful, I like landrovers but would not own another (and before people start banging on about how people who complain about them can't afford them) I have owned 7 of them, everything from a Series IIA, Range Rover Classic 3.5 manual, a 2.5tdi Discovery SII, a 1.8L Freelander 1, a 2.2Tdi freelander 2 and a Discovery 3, if you count my father and my brother we have owned every landrover except a Series I, a 101FC a Disco 4 and the current rangerover, and I have driven all of them except for the most current line up. (including the 101 based city cab and the FC llama!)
Landrovers are great and have character but they are in no way "up there" in reliability, and I used to work for a main dealership as a mech, no car is without fault and all will have niggley common faults but the most expensive car to repair and run I have ever owned was my Discovery 3, it was a constant cycle of Wheel bearings, which leads to disks and calipers, the electric handbrakes are a pain, the power steering pump seal went, and the main front to back break pipe is made of steel - anyone who owns one should go in and ask a dealer how much they want to change this one pipe - they will get a quote of around £1200 as most dealers will take the body off to change this pipe! I also had the air compressor housing corrode (another known fault due to poor drain points in the housing) what I will say is when they are going they drive very well considering their weight - and they are great offroad with the right boots.
My Freelander 1 was pretty good for 52k other than viscous coupling, my discovery II had the usual wheel bearings and corrosion on the rear quarter, my Freelander 2 had a slipping clutch at 68k and the intercooler hose cracked.
I used to fully support landrover as a brand but they really just aren't building a product worthy of the price anymore - and they are about to kill off the product that has the last bit of heritage when they sell off the last defender.
The issue with the older ones was inconsistency, some defenders and discos are excellent and if you get a good one then hold onto it - but far more have dodgy reliability.
Go and look at the wheel arches and just in front of the spare wheel on a disco 3 or 4 - count the exposed wires and tell me that's acceptable for a vehicle that was supposed to be designed for offroad use!
When I worked there it was mostly gearbox mainshaft replacements on Discovery I & II's and camshaft float on the 3.9 V8's that was the issue. (along with Range rover p38 wheels falling off - which was down to using copper slip on the hub face)
Now go look at an Audi, VW or BMW and look at all the sealed covered connectors - that speaks volumes!
I am currently in the USA and ok the cars don't get the same extreme weather where I am and are not to the same quality build standard - but I have done 22,000 miles in the last 4 1/2 months in my truck and it has not skipped a beat - ok, the 16 spark plugs on a Hemi are a pain to change but it has purred away without a problem.
A friend has a TD5 110 Defender and its a great truck to hoon around in - but he has had to change the cylinder head due to them cracking and leading to the engine oil being contaminated by diesel - not a cheap fix!, he has also changed out half shafts and his door bottoms are giving in to tin worm, all on a 2003 vehicle.
When I get back I hope VW have come out with a 3.0TD version of the Amorak as I will be looking at that or the Ford Ranger for me and most likely another German car (her last was an ultra reliable 330D BMW and it was pretty much faultless) for the Mrs.
Landrover unfortunately wont get a look in for either of my choices as they traded robust build for fashion in my opinion.
Regards,
Gixer
Landrovers are great and have character but they are in no way "up there" in reliability, and I used to work for a main dealership as a mech, no car is without fault and all will have niggley common faults but the most expensive car to repair and run I have ever owned was my Discovery 3, it was a constant cycle of Wheel bearings, which leads to disks and calipers, the electric handbrakes are a pain, the power steering pump seal went, and the main front to back break pipe is made of steel - anyone who owns one should go in and ask a dealer how much they want to change this one pipe - they will get a quote of around £1200 as most dealers will take the body off to change this pipe! I also had the air compressor housing corrode (another known fault due to poor drain points in the housing) what I will say is when they are going they drive very well considering their weight - and they are great offroad with the right boots.
My Freelander 1 was pretty good for 52k other than viscous coupling, my discovery II had the usual wheel bearings and corrosion on the rear quarter, my Freelander 2 had a slipping clutch at 68k and the intercooler hose cracked.
I used to fully support landrover as a brand but they really just aren't building a product worthy of the price anymore - and they are about to kill off the product that has the last bit of heritage when they sell off the last defender.
The issue with the older ones was inconsistency, some defenders and discos are excellent and if you get a good one then hold onto it - but far more have dodgy reliability.
Go and look at the wheel arches and just in front of the spare wheel on a disco 3 or 4 - count the exposed wires and tell me that's acceptable for a vehicle that was supposed to be designed for offroad use!
When I worked there it was mostly gearbox mainshaft replacements on Discovery I & II's and camshaft float on the 3.9 V8's that was the issue. (along with Range rover p38 wheels falling off - which was down to using copper slip on the hub face)
Now go look at an Audi, VW or BMW and look at all the sealed covered connectors - that speaks volumes!
I am currently in the USA and ok the cars don't get the same extreme weather where I am and are not to the same quality build standard - but I have done 22,000 miles in the last 4 1/2 months in my truck and it has not skipped a beat - ok, the 16 spark plugs on a Hemi are a pain to change but it has purred away without a problem.
A friend has a TD5 110 Defender and its a great truck to hoon around in - but he has had to change the cylinder head due to them cracking and leading to the engine oil being contaminated by diesel - not a cheap fix!, he has also changed out half shafts and his door bottoms are giving in to tin worm, all on a 2003 vehicle.
When I get back I hope VW have come out with a 3.0TD version of the Amorak as I will be looking at that or the Ford Ranger for me and most likely another German car (her last was an ultra reliable 330D BMW and it was pretty much faultless) for the Mrs.
Landrover unfortunately wont get a look in for either of my choices as they traded robust build for fashion in my opinion.
Regards,
Gixer
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Plenty other marques have followings - VW, ford all have serious clubs - you just see landrover because they are shooting related and this forum is filled with shooting people!
Well I bought one of the last of the old model range rovers on the basis that they have found out to build them by the time the designers draw a new one.
Genuinely, it is sublime, reliable, and makes me smile every time I drive it.
Under a year old and with less than 5k on the clock, it cost less than half what the new one cost.
There is the issue of folk thinking you are a footballer, footballers wife etc when you drive it. But when they see me outside the car, that quickly disappears.
If there is a fault, and there is a real one, it is that it's just tooooo nice to put paving slabs, garden rubbish or dripping carcasses in the back of it.
JS
Genuinely, it is sublime, reliable, and makes me smile every time I drive it.
Under a year old and with less than 5k on the clock, it cost less than half what the new one cost.
There is the issue of folk thinking you are a footballer, footballers wife etc when you drive it. But when they see me outside the car, that quickly disappears.
If there is a fault, and there is a real one, it is that it's just tooooo nice to put paving slabs, garden rubbish or dripping carcasses in the back of it.
JS
Wingy
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Don't get me wrong I love LR I've owned many 2A's, 3's, air portable 2 1/4 & 3.5 V8, ranger over classic & defender 110. I've built a 88" comp safari. Taken part in trials & fun days - some serious off roading. But I've had to do many repairs over the years. And I would say the meccano style build & mechanics of LR (the older ones anyway) not too expensive and a bit like reloading is to shooting, a separate hobby that goes hand in hand.
I'd love another LR but as I now travel further to work and have less time to spend repairing the vehicle I'm afraid I'll be sticking with the Hilux
Wingy
I'd love another LR but as I now travel further to work and have less time to spend repairing the vehicle I'm afraid I'll be sticking with the Hilux
Wingy
I have had four LR, all of them developed serious faults they would have cost an awful lot of money to put right, if I was paying for them. They were rectified (some of them twice) FOC as they were still covered by LR. If they were not company vehicles I would have never bought one. I am glad I don't have to put up with them anymore...
Ouch don't usually pay much more than that for a motor.
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