tackb
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We must do a lot of shooting then to make the creedmoor as popular as it is ?
6.5 creedmoor for red deer
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I would go ELDx Rather than ELDm just because Hornady themselves have mentioned that they are both optimised for particular performance .
I shoot 260 rem a similar cartridge in 6.5 i like 100 grain TTSX but will use and have used 120 TTSX . 3300 fps from the 100grain and 2850 fps from the 120s . I have killed the smallest of UK deer Muntjac + CWD close up and the biggest stags up to 400 and have not had a single issue in terminal performance. I am not talking small sample size
My 260 also shoots the ELDX bullet you mention pretty accurate , 100 grain seirra varminters , 120 grain serra pro hunter .
The number 1 thing with bullets for deer is " they have to be designed to expand in a predictable fashion by law" and second to that you need to be able to put them in the right spot . If allowed to do so i would shoot ttsx in a match just because the dope is in my head and you dont see steel targets running off on three legs .
I do like a bullet to exit , this creates a sucking wound that will generally stop a beast faster - if they run at all ! My experiance with TTSX 100 grain is only a small percentage run at all ! Those that do ? furthest run has been about 100 yards and it was a very unfortunate strike from the fact i had a channelling wind between two peaks - i just plain couln't detect where i was shooting from . Mistakes like that will always happen its not a perfect world so IMHO use the right bullet for the job , one day you will need it !
I shoot 260 rem a similar cartridge in 6.5 i like 100 grain TTSX but will use and have used 120 TTSX . 3300 fps from the 100grain and 2850 fps from the 120s . I have killed the smallest of UK deer Muntjac + CWD close up and the biggest stags up to 400 and have not had a single issue in terminal performance. I am not talking small sample size
My 260 also shoots the ELDX bullet you mention pretty accurate , 100 grain seirra varminters , 120 grain serra pro hunter .
The number 1 thing with bullets for deer is " they have to be designed to expand in a predictable fashion by law" and second to that you need to be able to put them in the right spot . If allowed to do so i would shoot ttsx in a match just because the dope is in my head and you dont see steel targets running off on three legs .
I do like a bullet to exit , this creates a sucking wound that will generally stop a beast faster - if they run at all ! My experiance with TTSX 100 grain is only a small percentage run at all ! Those that do ? furthest run has been about 100 yards and it was a very unfortunate strike from the fact i had a channelling wind between two peaks - i just plain couln't detect where i was shooting from . Mistakes like that will always happen its not a perfect world so IMHO use the right bullet for the job , one day you will need it !
Sounds like Paul Harrel's "meat target". Just google him on Youtube.
Niche calibre for a niche market
Fishing going well today?
No, another blank !
Ground bait drawing them in nicely
Brighty3006
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Creedmore and a man bun. Perfect
I love this comment
Topdogpippin
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Like the internet, it will never catch on
Jefgingerbear
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Agreed
6.5-06 TIKKA
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I must agree 6.5mm bullets are usually pretty good...I like Sierra 140gr Gameking.
I have quite a few recovered Barnes TTSX and have seen what they do. At ranges from maybe 40 yards on small deer to the biggest stags up to 400 yds . Both 100 grain ( which i preffer ) and 120 ( which are ok just not as reliable at getting the expansion at the longer ranges ) I run 120s at 2850 and the 100 at 3300 . I also have some Sierra jacked lead pro hunter 120 grain and the 100 varminter . The varminter are not a large deer round they really let go but if your on small species and are ok with ruining the front inside woodland rages ( but are a bit mitigation from ricochet - not so much we can factor in an unsafe shot as ok ) , the Seirra have been steady performers on deer for me in 243 win and 260 rem .
I have basically stopped shooting deer with lead , for me they are cheaper bullets to practice with or shoot vermin ( so long as i can remove the carcass away from any BOP etc )
Often when i shoot a poor red on the hill and of course the gralloch its left out for the eagles etc you would have to remove every bag of old bones deer using lead . Obviously You should remove or securely bury grallochs, poor deer , vermin if your shooting lead.
As an aside, and I don't want this to become a ****ing match, but there's never been a document bird of prey found dead in the US from lead poisoning. While it is possible, it's never actually been found to happen. They eat too much other stuff to die from eating a chance piece of lead in the offal.
Now, that's not to say you're wrong for wanting to be conscious of looking to leave the environment as clean as possible; quite the opposite. That's quite respectable. But just wanted to toss that out there, since it gets bandied about a lot here in the US when talking about the endangered condors. It's been studied a lot here, and it's been found to be a false narrative. Truth of the matter is, they're dying off due to nesting issues and bird strikes with airplanes, windmills and solar collectors (they even have a term for it; "streakers". No not the same meaning as the UK. LOL But rather because when they fly through the collector focal path, they ignite and streak across the sky on fire as they fall burning to the ground.)
You should see the wind farm on the local reservation here. There's always dead birds lying around the bases of the wind mills. Yea, for "clean energy". <sarcasm>
Topdogpippin
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What a well moderated mad reasonable response. Let’s face it this is another bit is virtues signalling, a fiddle at the edges, and another ‘back door ban’ making shooting more prohibitive and expensive. I normally shoot 12-15 driven day a year, I always take game when offered in pretty well as much as is offered, if we don’t eat it people around us do. So, 90% of the meat we eat is shot game…in forty+ year I have only encountered pellets twice. Lead is a naturally occurring mineral, the whole ban is a forthwr restriction and limitation on our sport. I hope everyone is filling out the surveys, fat lot of good that will do but show willing at least. Sad times for the country and country folk.
Has it?
Can you point to the work on this? I thought the evidence that lead was a problem for condors was quite robust?
If you read most of the studies, they show an elevated level of lead, not a lethal one. It's how it's worded that reveals the fallacy. Just like mountain lion hunting, and other hot button topics, most of the studies are conducted by less than objective people, stating conjecture as fact. I'm heading out the door to work now, but I'll post few articles when I get a chance.
This reminds me of all the "Don't eat tuna, it has high levels of arsenic!" BS (remember that? You haven't heard that melodrama lately, have you?) Turns out, they do have high levels of arsenic. It also turns out that they also have high levels of selenium....which chelates arsenic. So the arsenic is harmless, unless it's farm grown tuna and doesn't have the high levels of selenium that tuna get from being in the open ocean. And the initially study, that caused the alarm? Yeah, it was paid for by the Pork Producer's Union. Go figure...
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