Tikka Rep. at the Shooting Show said this is most likely one of the quietest MODs you are likely to find for a rifle.

Leica Fortis 6 - Bright and powerful.
Radstorm said:
Yes I’m fairly sure this is one I have used and yes it’s good - definitely ear safe which was my reason for trying - if you go on stalon website they give you the decibel rating - I think similar or better rated mod would be a hausken - which is next on the list to try.
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"Definitely ear safe"? I don't know any commercially available moderator that is "ear safe" with centrefire ammo. The most efficient will reduce an average 160 db .308 to perhaps 125db at the shooter's ear, yet the max safe sound level for human ears is just 85 db. Repeated exposure above that may cause damage over time, while even isolated exposure to more than about 110 db will probably cause a degree of hearing loss. At 125-30 db, damage is almost inevitable, especially if repeated and/or in echoing spaces, such as woodland.

You would be well advised to wear some sort of ear protection - moderator or not!
 
Whitefront said:
"Definitely ear safe"? I don't know any commercially available moderator that is "ear safe" with centrefire ammo. The most efficient will reduce an average 160 db .308 to perhaps 125db at the shooter's ear, yet the max safe sound level for human ears is just 85 db. Repeated exposure above that may cause damage over time, while even isolated exposure to more than about 110 db will probably cause a degree of hearing loss. At 125-30 db, damage is almost inevitable, especially if repeated and/or in echoing spaces, such as woodland.

You would be well advised to wear some sort of ear protection - moderator or not!
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Yes 85dec will cause hearing damage in a working day of 8 hours. I think my 300blk with supersonics and Stalon Victor are safe enough to use a few hunting shots without hearing protection, always use protection on the range. The supersonics do have an echo agains the back wall and forest at the range. The subsonics feels safe to use without protection. Time of exposure and time to rest have an impact on how well your ear can take noise.
 
webley701 said:
So GMK recommended a brand they distribute?
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Having discussed my particular needs, the man said this is most likely one of the quietest Mods you are likely to find for a rifle. That was correct after further research so he was honest with his advice.

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ShotKam 0 said:
Having discussed my particular needs, the man said this is most likely one of the quietest Mods you are likely to find for a rifle. That was correct after further research so he was honest with his advice.

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Ahh see now theres the difference "one of the quietest" is a lot different to " for the quietest "
ShotKam 0 said:
STALON XE149 was the recommendation for the quietest,
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As always effective Attenuation is and always will be dependant on environment / surroundings.
In any case it does seem an effective can. Just seems very big /long
 
One on top of two said:
Ahh see now theres the difference "one of the quietest" is a lot different to " for the quietest "


As always effective Attenuation is and always will be dependant on .
In any case it does seem an effective can. Just seems very big /long
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We have a range of Hushpower shotguns in the family and in every single case where we have tested attenuation, the one with the largest moderator is without doubt the quietest. As you say environment / surroundings effect sound - shooting in a steep sided valley or towards a hillside and you would generally think you were using a different shotgun it is so much noisier. Fired at least 5k though the hushpowers so I have a good understanding of what works most efficiently under differing conditions.
 
The bigger heavier moderators will be quieter.
It all depends what is important to you.
For hunting I want something compact and light.
For range use I use the Jet Z and Ase mods

for their low maintenance and long life.
 
Whitefront said:
"Definitely ear safe"? I don't know any commercially available moderator that is "ear safe" with centrefire ammo. The most efficient will reduce an average 160 db .308 to perhaps 125db at the shooter's ear, yet the max safe sound level for human ears is just 85 db. Repeated exposure above that may cause damage over time, while even isolated exposure to more than about 110 db will probably cause a degree of hearing loss. At 125-30 db, damage is almost inevitable, especially if repeated and/or in echoing spaces, such as woodland.

You would be well advised to wear some sort of ear protection - moderator or not!
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Yes - good advice and highlights I should clarify some words I use - my version of ear safe is probably based on questionable life choices due to my concern I now use electronic ear protection when out in the field and hence my quest to find the quietest moderator
 
One of mine on one of mine :)
 

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Whitefront said:
"Definitely ear safe"? I don't know any commercially available moderator that is "ear safe" with centrefire ammo. The most efficient will reduce an average 160 db .308 to perhaps 125db at the shooter's ear, yet the max safe sound level for human ears is just 85 db. Repeated exposure above that may cause damage over time, while even isolated exposure to more than about 110 db will probably cause a degree of hearing loss. At 125-30 db, damage is almost inevitable, especially if repeated and/or in echoing spaces, such as woodland.

You would be well advised to wear some sort of ear protection - moderator or not!
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I dont know about uk rules.

You are allowed up to 85 db for up to 8 hours a day.
And then in increments up to 100db for 15 min a day.

No peak db above 137db

According to the Danish work safety rules a moderator would be able to bring it in to "safe" levels.
 
You seem to have made your mind up already but there are a few things of note
We did one of the only non OEM driven tests across a wide range of mods back in 2018.


1) Quoted OEM Sound Attenuation was never accurate or even close to measured regardless of test methods (VW MPG!)
2) Stalon has an Aluminium core which regardless of the initial baffle being stainless, erodes very quickly. We have returned a number of them
3) Sound attenuation is directly linked to radial clearance - not moderator chamber size
4) Moderator Chamber size comes into its own with larger cartridges - those upwards of 60gr charge
5) Cleaning in the sense of Stripping and Cleaning is a disastrous idea IMO. Constant disassembly and re-assembly of Aluminium mods weakens threads, seals and exposes bare aluminium to the flame front.
The carbon coating is a protection, not a detriment. There is a difference between cleaning and neutralising the harmful acidic compounds. This can be done without opening the moderator. Quick squirt with Light Oil, Legia or similar is enough to stop chemical corrosion. Dont use WD40, it disipates and hardens into a sticky coating that accumulates carbon and reduses bore clearance and resists the pressure evacuation of loose material on firing
6) moderators with internal coating of carbon are quieter - FACT
7) No mod reduces muzzle blast and peak dB to below that recommended for hearing protection. They all produce peak dB over 130dB (most above 140dB) which is significantly higher than the level you would be issued hearing protection in the work place


You want the quietest mod for a .223
get one with a 6mm bore

You want one that is resilient
Get one that is predominantly steel

You want a slim mod
Get one, they are all getting slimmer
 
Onelesscharlie said:
One of mine on one of mine :)
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Decent size moderators
Edinburgh Rifles said:
You seem to have made your mind up already but there are a few things of note
We did one of the only non OEM driven tests across a wide range of mods back in 2018.


1) Quoted OEM Sound Attenuation was never accurate or even close to measured regardless of test methods (VW MPG!)
2) Stalon has an Aluminium core which regardless of the initial baffle being stainless, erodes very quickly. We have returned a number of them
3) Sound attenuation is directly linked to radial clearance - not moderator chamber size
4) Moderator Chamber size comes into its own with larger cartridges - those upwards of 60gr charge
5) Cleaning in the sense of Stripping and Cleaning is a disastrous idea IMO. Constant disassembly and re-assembly of Aluminium mods weakens threads, seals and exposes bare aluminium to the flame front.
The carbon coating is a protection, not a detriment. There is a difference between cleaning and neutralising the harmful acidic compounds. This can be done without opening the moderator. Quick squirt with Light Oil, Legia or similar is enough to stop chemical corrosion. Dont use WD40, it disipates and hardens into a sticky coating that accumulates carbon and reduses bore clearance and resists the pressure evacuation of loose material on firing
6) moderators with internal coating of carbon are quieter - FACT
7) No mod reduces muzzle blast and peak dB to below that recommended for hearing protection. They all produce peak dB over 130dB (most above 140dB) which is significantly higher than the level you would be issued hearing protection in the work place


You want the quietest mod for a .223
get one with a 6mm bore

You want one that is resilient
Get one that is predominantly steel

You want a slim mod
Get one, they are all getting slimmer
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Great information - Thankyou. Have you a Mod in mind for .223 with a 6mm bore, all stainless that will be close to the quietest available ? I have no problem paying a premium price for a Mod that will last.
 
Edinburgh Rifles said:
You seem to have made your mind up already but there are a few things of note
We did one of the only non OEM driven tests across a wide range of mods back in 2018.


1) Quoted OEM Sound Attenuation was never accurate or even close to measured regardless of test methods (VW MPG!)
2) Stalon has an Aluminium core which regardless of the initial baffle being stainless, erodes very quickly. We have returned a number of them
3) Sound attenuation is directly linked to radial clearance - not moderator chamber size
4) Moderator Chamber size comes into its own with larger cartridges - those upwards of 60gr charge
5) Cleaning in the sense of Stripping and Cleaning is a disastrous idea IMO. Constant disassembly and re-assembly of Aluminium mods weakens threads, seals and exposes bare aluminium to the flame front.
The carbon coating is a protection, not a detriment. There is a difference between cleaning and neutralising the harmful acidic compounds. This can be done without opening the moderator. Quick squirt with Light Oil, Legia or similar is enough to stop chemical corrosion. Dont use WD40, it disipates and hardens into a sticky coating that accumulates carbon and reduses bore clearance and resists the pressure evacuation of loose material on firing
6) moderators with internal coating of carbon are quieter - FACT
7) No mod reduces muzzle blast and peak dB to below that recommended for hearing protection. They all produce peak dB over 130dB (most above 140dB) which is significantly higher than the level you would be issued hearing protection in the work place


You want the quietest mod for a .223
get one with a 6mm bore

You want one that is resilient
Get one that is predominantly steel

You want a slim mod
Get one, they are all getting slimmer
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So which mod would be the top choice for effectiveness and longevity,as a lot seem to have aluminium as a casing regardless as to what is internal ?
 
Very many years ago |I bought a Quicksilver mod. Titanium with ceramic baffles. It cost quite a lot then and is still as good asd new.

I've used a lot of different mods over the years and never really noticed much difference in them. It so much depends on where you are using them. I have to say the DPT on my 243 is very good.
 
old keeper said:
Very many years ago |I bought a Quicksilver mod. Titanium with ceramic baffles. It cost quite a lot then and is still as good asd new.

I've used a lot of different mods over the years and never really noticed much difference in them. It so much depends on where you are using them. I have to say the DPT on my 243 is very good.
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wow... quicksilver, thats a name from the past. Sold by a chap called George I believe and manufactured in Brazil.
 
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