Anyone heard how todays debate has went?
Shotgun Merge Debate
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ohh that sounds promising then!
not so sure the minster responding for the government reading between the lines will want to make changes because they can.
Been watching it for a while, it’s just finished - the Minister’s response is like listening to a child giving a talk in a primary school assembly & what I would expect from someone trying to defend her governments political agenda. You would have hoped that someone would have given her a proper brief on the subject & knowing that she was going to be asked to respond to the issues would have done her homework & know her subject.
Overall I’d say that the majority of the speeches were just repeating the obvious - none of the suited & booted gents grasped the nettle & hammered home the point that it’s the performance of the FLDs implementing the current regs that is the issue.
The only person who really stood out to me was the Lib Dem MP for Glastonbury who was clear, justified what she said with real world examples &, imo, stood up for her constituents.
Overall I’d say that the majority of the speeches were just repeating the obvious - none of the suited & booted gents grasped the nettle & hammered home the point that it’s the performance of the FLDs implementing the current regs that is the issue.
The only person who really stood out to me was the Lib Dem MP for Glastonbury who was clear, justified what she said with real world examples &, imo, stood up for her constituents.
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i watched it all, the government minster was less than impressive.
But then do they care if implementing section 1 to 2 reduces the number of gun owners and or cost us more financially.
The few who stated the public safety checks were the same for section 1 or 2 was a good point to make.
Sadly every government likes to leave a legacy and we as gun owners are an easy target, i got the impression she was like a dog with a bone would not let it go, they will make changes, the scope of the changes will be the issue.
The government licence offensive weapons she said, but they do likewise with vehicles.
But then do they care if implementing section 1 to 2 reduces the number of gun owners and or cost us more financially.
The few who stated the public safety checks were the same for section 1 or 2 was a good point to make.
Sadly every government likes to leave a legacy and we as gun owners are an easy target, i got the impression she was like a dog with a bone would not let it go, they will make changes, the scope of the changes will be the issue.
The government licence offensive weapons she said, but they do likewise with vehicles.
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You cannot be serious? This is 2026 where a penny for your thoughts & predilections can only be Room 101 interview away if you wish to do other than visit a retail shopping centre at the Weekend.
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not serious that it sounds promising 99.9% were in favour of keeping section 2...
why wouldnt i be serious, thats what we all hope for right? i know i hope for this outcome!
There are 650 MPs in parliament, how many were in that debate? Those that were represented the constituents they agreed with, the constituents who think the merge is a bad thing - that’s why the majority were in favour of keeping s2 as it is.not serious that it sounds promising 99.9% were in favour of keeping section 2...
Where were the rest of them - the ones who don’t agree &/or won’t represent their constituents on the matter? How many in the debate were labour MPs? - there are over 400 of them & how do you think they’ll vote when the time comes to amend the legislation?
Our best bet, or at least the best short term outcome for those who only have a SGC at the moment, is that the government get tied up & delayed in the reform of the police service nationally & then get kicked out by Reform (yes, seriously as no way will the Tories kick them out) at an early election
Mods - not a political post, so please don’t move the thread, just trying to demonstrate the bias in the debate today vs the wider situation.
There are 650 MPs in parliament, how many were in that debate? Those that were represented the constituents they agreed with, the constituents who think the merge is a bad thing - that’s why the majority were in favour of keeping s2 as it is.
Where were the rest of them - the ones who don’t agree &/or won’t represent their constituents on the matter? How many in the debate were labour MPs? - there are over 400 of them & how do you think they’ll vote when the time comes to amend the legislation?
Our best bet, or at least the best short term outcome for those who only have a SGC at the moment, is that the government get tied up & delayed in the reform of the police service nationally & then get kicked out by Reform (yes, seriously as no way will the Tories kick them out) at an early election
Mods - not a political post, so please don’t move the thread, just trying to demonstrate the bias in the debate today vs the wider situation.
Well put, most who spoke, also had sgc and or fac, or other personal reasons for keeping section 2.
All those letters shooting organisations encourage us to write to our MPs count for very little in practice otherwise many more MPs would have been present as the debate.
Even the number watching the live broadcast was only in the hundreds, conclusion few gun owners look to care or feel it’s a done deal.
Find out how many signed the petition in your constituency and point it out when you ask your MP how many wrote to them in favour of the changes.
I haven't watched the debate, just read the press release, is there a list of MP's who attended so I can do the same
Spot on. I urge everyone here to complete the consultation when it's published.
Heym SR20
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Well the debate was a success for shooters. For once debate and reason has worked and demonstrates power of petition and that supporting our organisations really works
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MPs reject plans to change shotgun licensing rules
During the debate, not a single MP spoke in favour of merging shotgun and firearms licensing, delivering a clear rejection of the proposals.
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