If you are so sure of your level of expertise and influence that you could get the whole thing closed down then go ahead, do it. I’m willing to bet that no one gives a flying toss about some wannabes opinion. I don’t think I have ever met anyone with such a self inflated ego as yourself.I first used NV back in the early 2000’s when archer was first released, I also think shooting deer at night and all this night license BS is a ****ingidea!
I know enough about wounded deer that I could get the whole thing shut down just on animal welfare grounds, or make it very nearly impossible to get!
It’s not the experienced stalkers that are the problem it’s the wannabe experts who don’t have a clue that are the issue and no **** pot night shooting course is going to make it right.
Line I said before permissions are small in England boundaries are easily crossed.
Night shooting deer under CL55 - Police Notifications
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I ll leave it there Lee..appreciate you have seen a lot of wounded deer...fortunately I have never had one get away but also appreciate I have shot a tiny percentage of what you have
Off to walk the dog in the sunshine
Norfolk Deer Search
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There is no argument against animal welfare in a court of law
Norfolk Deer Search
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Just fact nothing more or less
Norfolk Deer Search
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That depends on the shot placement, that’s if you haven’t trodden and messed up the shot sight whilst trudging about in the dark looking for it
Why is working a dog any harder at night? I do a lot of dog work (I’m off to Europe doing after search work as soon as my culling season is over) and I often prefer doing deer recovery under the cover of darkness, as do a lot of my friends in Europe. Can you describe exactly what the specific issues with nighttime Deer recovery are?
palmer_mike
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Obviously
Norfolk Deer Search
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2nd scenario-
You out on fallow or red under night license, you get into a group and shoot 2 and then shoot a 3rd and the herd runs and the one you shot runs with it he herd and you don’t see it drop, the herd and the runner leaves the field into cover
What you going to do?
You out on fallow or red under night license, you get into a group and shoot 2 and then shoot a 3rd and the herd runs and the one you shot runs with it he herd and you don’t see it drop, the herd and the runner leaves the field into cover
What you going to do?
Deermanagement
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I’m wondering if any of you guys intending on shooting deer at night, think you’ll enjoy the hunt or find it a challenge?
If and this is a big if...i did it then it would be about pure management and nothing else. Enjoyment or challenge does not come into it at all imo.
More to the point, can you explain the difference between carrying out your scenario at night opposed to in day light?
Norfolk Deer Search
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Let me put this into perspective, the last year I tracked before I retired was a red stag shot at distance and at last light, they called and I said leave it alone. I’ll see you in the morning.
They went after it because they thought they knew better.
I did 5.5 km the next morning never did get it because they pushed it on in the dark.
If they had left it alone, I would’ve found it on the third wound bed! (Upper leg shot)
What do you think you’re do if you mess up in the dark?
They went after it because they thought they knew better.
I did 5.5 km the next morning never did get it because they pushed it on in the dark.
If they had left it alone, I would’ve found it on the third wound bed! (Upper leg shot)
What do you think you’re do if you mess up in the dark?
Norfolk Deer Search
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Yep I had a very good dog that could solve problems like that.
Mark the approx rough shot site area and go back with the hound about 6-8 hours later if at last light after breakfast the next day and pick up the track and away you go.
That’s what she was bred to do!
That’s the advantage of having a dog from the KBGS in Germany, pure bred tracking machines
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Certainly wouln't say I enjoyed it but I was out to do a job. Fortunately I was in a position to have a loan of a mobile high box so was able to position myself in such a position to maximise safe shooting angles. 6 Fallow down in one sitting and a much happier land owner now that the additional tool of night shooting has been added to the available options. Would I say it was challenging, to a certain degree yes, but that was due to the location of where I was culling.
palmer_mike
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Why would YOU do if that happened during the day?
Why can’t you leave it till the next morning, like you wanted them to do? You keep saying that the dark is the problem, but won’t define what that problem is. I much prefer to do a track with my dog in the dark so am genuinely interested in why you are insistent that finding deer in the dark is a problem?
Norfolk Deer Search
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see post 93
palmer_mike
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Norfolk Deer Search
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Because they didn’t do what I ****ing wanted them to do, did they?
Also I tracked with my dog as part of a service, wasn’t my ground so I didn’t know it, therefore why should I risk myself in any danger in the dark on ground that’s not mine?
Getting him to explain his thinking is pretty much impossible.
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