Hilar shot location

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Many people think the Hillar shot is the scapular, but is really just a classic heart shot, ideally the top of the aorta. This causes a massive and instant drop in blood pressure and therefore collapse, normally on the spot or in a few yards.
Most people were taught the back of the leg as it was saves the meat...
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karamoja said:
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Most people were taught the back of the leg as it was saves the meat...
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Are you sure that's why? I think it was just because it gives a bigger target area and more margin for error.
The hilar shot wastes less meat than the common "up the back of the front leg" type shot, in my experience.
 
VSS said:
Are you sure that's why? I think it was just because it gives a bigger target area and more margin for error.
The hilar shot wastes less meat than the common "up the back of the front leg" type shot, in my experience.
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Possibly, when I was young the older stalkers suggested/demanded side on, behind the leg and no more than 100 yards. They always said don't wreck the front legs.
I don't disagree with you, this is just what they said, and mainly around roe???
 
Dalua said:
Is that what happens with a hilar shot?
It seems to have gone straight down, and lost the use of all four legs while still having neck movement. Does that not suggest some kind of insult to the spinal cord?
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No it isn't - not in my opinion. Hilar produces an almost instant loss of consciousness - "bang flop". That's the appeal of this shot placement. You don't get the thrashing around seen in this video which is much more like the reaction I would expect from a high shoulder shot - which pins a deer and stops it running but which doesn't cause instant death or loss of consciousness.
 
Behind the leg, up the crease jobs, were often based on lack of penetrative performance in bullet construction with earlier soft points.
 
I use the high shoulder shot placement and it works very well. The only error that normally creeps into my shooting is the miscalculation of drop at distances beyond 150m, so the high shoulder is quite forgiving (more drop than expected and it hits the hilar spot).

The reason I switched to high shoulder was due to lung shots with my 6.5 creedmoor non-lead not doing enough damage, and deer running. I have a video of a roe gralloch that some might be interested to see. Double lung shot, but very little damage and the deer moved off. Killed with head shot before it went too far. I'd post here, but I'm a newbie and don't have the permission!
 
See post above for context. 6.5mm creedmoor, Sako blade non-lead. Roe doe, double lung shot at 75m, slight reaction, trotted off about 30m then shot in head.

Interested to hear if anyone else has seen this lack of damage with non lead


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sevenorten said:
See post above for context. 6.5mm creedmoor, Sako blade non-lead. Roe doe, double lung shot at 75m, slight reaction, trotted off about 30m then shot in head.

Interested to hear if anyone else has seen this lack of damage with non lead


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I had basically that on a longer shot, 175m odd. Through both lungs but hadn't seemed to impart the energy.

Same copper rounds that are always very effective up to 100m and just beyond (Federal Powershok copper, 150g 308).

Thinking of switching to something with a better BC just in case that distance comes up again. The federal are hollow nosed and drop like a brick past 100m
 
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