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Shot Placement Videos please
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Apologies on some of these as Im not "capable" of Youtube stuff so fair play to the likes of Tim243 etc. Also some are a little fuzzy as dont have time to adjust the scope
6.5 Creed 120 Grain copper for all of these. Can I also point out that these are all legal light, some may only be 1 minute legal but still legal as I appreciate some are clearly when its dark. All deer dropped within 10-30 yards.
I havent put the head and neck shot clips in as we dont need another debate on this
Fallow buck 150 ish yards
Roe - 80 yards
Fallow 150 yards
Fallow - 100 yards
6.5 Creed 120 Grain copper for all of these. Can I also point out that these are all legal light, some may only be 1 minute legal but still legal as I appreciate some are clearly when its dark. All deer dropped within 10-30 yards.
I havent put the head and neck shot clips in as we dont need another debate on this
Fallow buck 150 ish yards
Roe - 80 yards
Fallow 150 yards
Fallow - 100 yards
Post one up Russ!Surely I can’t be the only one holding my breath watching these videos?
In what way? Don’t quite follow…Surely I can’t be the only one holding my breath watching these videos?
No. I'm on the edge of my seat as wellAs if taking the shot - must just be me.
First time through I was a bit shocked you'd taken a shot like that. Face on and with a deer right behind - looks like the crap I see on Facebook.
I do hate seeing a deer I've shot where the back half doesn't know the front bit is dead
For me way worse than seeing a heart shot deer running while already dead.
Not sure why though.
What you see is the person filming with myself about 10 yards to his left so a clear path through to both deer, disappointed you asked for this type of videos then work it out to be something it is not. H/L deer run (lots of posts about those)
There is a big difference with angle of windage with a factor of 10 yards
Here are those 2 being taken back they went 57kg each dressed, it is a shame people judge on what they see and not the facts (a lot like jury's sending someone down as they got their facts wrong lol)
What you see is the person filming with myself about 10 yards to his left so a clear path through to both deer, disappointed you asked for this type of videos then work it out to be something it is not. H/L deer run (lots of posts about those)
There is a big difference with angle of windage with a factor of 10 yards
Here are those 2 being taken back they went 57kg each dressed, it is a shame people judge on what they see and not the facts (a lot like jury's sending someone down as they got their facts wrong lol)
Honestly wasn't a dig in any way I just didn't explain myself
what I meant is the first time I watched it it looked like an 'odd' shot to take but it's obvious that's not the shooters position when you actually look.
And 100% that even a few yards can make a massive difference to if a shot is safe, Sensible appropriate etc
I looked at my reply to you with a typo of them which should be then so changed it after posting but I was happy with my reply the first time.
Have you any accounts of stalking/pictures on SD for us to see?
That’s so weird! I realised on Sunday that I do too. I watch the boys’ videos of their squirrel shooting in the scope camera, a faff to transfer, and find that I almost suffocate myselfSurely I can’t be the only one holding my breath watching these videos?
We had some regular european clients on the estate I used to stalk on, they would come over for the two ruts but in the winter one year asked to come doe stalking. They got reduced rates for this as it’d help us with the cull.Surely I can’t be the only one holding my breath watching these videos?
One morning after we’d had breakfast one of them was showing us a video his (non shooting) friend had taken from the tower they’d both been in that morning. There was a line of fallow approaching from the 2 o’clock position at a leisurely pace & visible from a reasonable distance. We all watched intently as they approached the ride the tower overlooked & stopped. There was a clear shot on the first one which was a doe but no bang… she walked across the ride at around 40m & presented an easy shot as she went but still no bang. The others waited in the woods, clearly visible with several presenting shots & still no bang, before one by one ambling across the ride each presenting an easy shot as they went. Then they were all gone, there must have been 8-10 of them from memory.
After the clip had finished the one guy said in broken English that they’d been waiting for a Buck to shoot…
When the clients had departed one of the other guys looked at me & said ‘you were waiting to see a shot & I could see the puzzled look on your face when it didn’t happen - I was thinking exactly the same at exactly the same time! I reckon you or me would probably have shot 2 or 3 of those if we’d been there.’ He was right on both counts.
I think a lot of the comments above highlight the issue with viewing videos of someone shooting as its not always a fair or representative perspective. However I also feel that those being filmed shooting (lets limit this to "youtube stars") should be mindful of how the vids are perceived and either caveat the vid or perhaps limit what is shown. I think we can all agree that there are some shots filmed and taken where there is no backstop and showing these does nothing for our sport/industry.
A keeper I know had something worse, "European clients" after muntjac in seats (last morning) 4 shots 2 muntjac oh we missed 2We had some regular european clients on the estate I used to stalk on, they would come over for the two ruts but in the winter one year asked to come doe stalking. They got reduced rates for this as it’d help us with the cull.
One morning after we’d had breakfast one of them was showing us a video his (non shooting) friend had taken from the tower they’d both been in that morning. There was a line of fallow approaching from the 2 o’clock position at a leisurely pace & visible from a reasonable distance. We all watched intently as they approached the ride the tower overlooked & stopped. There was a clear shot on the first one which was a doe but no bang… she walked across the ride at around 40m & presented an easy shot as she went but still no bang. The others waited in the woods, clearly visible with several presenting shots & still no bang, before one by one ambling across the ride each presenting an easy shot as they went. Then they were all gone, there must have been 8-10 of them from memory.
After the clip had finished the one guy said in broken English that they’d been waiting for a Buck to shoot…
When the clients had departed one of the other guys looked at me & said ‘you were waiting to see a shot & I could see the puzzled look on your face when it didn’t happen - I was thinking exactly the same at exactly the same time! I reckon you or me would probably have shot 2 or 3 of those if we’d been there.’ He was right on both counts.
Deer collected paid up and left, a week later a stalker was walking to one of the seats with a strong smell from thick cover, a fallow that they shot dragged and hid. No bookings taken from that group again.
I'm not sure why I still seem to have got on the wrong side of you, I appreciate your videos and have found them useful, it was only a passing comment that didn't mean to come across like that
I don't have a digital scope of my own but used a thermal on an estate rifle a couple of times after muntjac
This one, the thermal makes it look a mess but it was about 40yds and the deer and backstop were both fairly clear by eye - you can't really ever judge someone elses shot if you are not there
Also this is what I mean about sometimes the back half not knowing the font is dead as there was quite a bit of movement after the shot for a fair while but, without going into the detail, it was pretty obvious it was dead immediately . I know that was the most painless death but I still find I'm squeamish about it whereas the reaction to a HL shot seems more natural
Last one: placement was good, shot was safe enough and the deer dropped on the spot but I'm not sure I would not take this shot again today and would have left that unless I could have got a clearer shot
Not on the wrong side at all just to balance things up as often it is a one way street, my For the new stalkers thread was/is open to all to put things up as then we get to see what others discover. As you can't judge a book by it's cover alone.
To edit, the more you do in person the better you will understand it, just like the first day at work it gets better or leave lol
Same trip organiser but different clients - one chap placed in a tower in the bottom of a valley with rides on 4 sides. Two rides ran along the valley & at right angles were two more rides that went up either side of the valley.A keeper I know had something worse, "European clients" after muntjac in seats (last morning) 4 shots 2 muntjac oh we missed 2
Deer collected paid up and left, a week later a stalker was walking to one of the seats with a strong smell from thick cover, a fallow that they shot dragged and hid. No bookings taken from that group again.
Clear instructions were given as to how far to shoot up each side ride & specifically on one side of the valley the limit was given as another ride that ran parallel to the valley & formed a bench that was very easily identified. I went into a seat the other side of the valley so I could be aware of what was going on & close by with a vehicle to clear up after.
About half an hour before end-ex there’s a clear shot & strike from the client. I wait a bit & then drive around & up the main ride with headlights on to collect him, he’s waiting at the bottom of the tower, kit all packed & opens the door to get in when I stop. I ask him what he shot, he’s replies nothing… I say I heard his shot & ask which ride the deer had been on & what it was.
He looks flustered & then says ‘oh I missed a roe deer that was on the junction of the ride there’ & points to the ride going up the side of the valley with the one crossing it parallel to the main ride. I reply that there was a definite strike & we’d better go & look - bearing in mind the time between me arriving & his shot was probably no more than 20-25mins & in which time he'd packed all his kit up & was waiting for me. If he'd looked at all, he had t had a thorough search for the ‘missing’ deer.
So off we go up the ride & I ask him to show me where the deer had been stood when he shot. He walks straight to the cross ride & says it was here, right in the middle. I cast around & there’s zero evidence of any strike - either on an animal or the ground from a miss. I widen the search but still nothing so walk back down the hill a bit looking in case he’d got confused about distance due to the falling light, nothing there so go uphill a bit too.
That was when he started looking a bit edgy…
I see no sign of anything until we reach the skyline & there in the middle of the ride between the wheel ruts is a very clear splash of paint with bits of lung & a good trail. At this point he knows he’s been busted & tells me which way it went. An easy follow up produces a very dead roe doe (at least he hadn’t shot a buck!) which I gralloch & take back down to the truck. He climbs in without saying a word.
Suffice to say he was accompanied on each of his remaining outings & it was made clear to the organiser a) that particular client was not to be brought back & b) he should explain clearly to the remaining party what would happen if anyone else took a shot without a safe backstop.
There are other tales I could recount, including a sheep, but those are for another day…
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