stuaff
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I agree with you, ive been out lamping for years .
Night shooting course availability
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Norfolk Deer Search
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I’m not negative at all, I just see it of what it is, another brain dead course, making you part with your hard earned cash.
If it's literally a requirement for some, how is it a "brain dead course". It's like calling a driving license a brain dead course just because you learnt by driving around your farm for years.
Some of us even had the course cost subsidised because they need the fallow numbers handled
Norfolk Deer Search
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I’m an ex keeper I can shoot at night if I need too, I’ll be buggered if I’ll do it!
I just watch all you lot scrap around that are so desperate to shoot deer at night, I think it’s hilarious
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cookingfat
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If you government won't more deer culled and making it legal to shoot at night under licence then perhaps they should be paying for people to do the course.
When I was involved with another nighttime cull organised and run by NE we did a classroom ecology and shooting test at night under NV, thermal or white light depending which was your chosen method and this was at no cost to the shooter!
The shooting test was done in the dark at 4inch target at 70 meters and than at a mannequins covered with silver foil ( for thermal scopes) at different angles and the examiner would check with a long rod the bullets path through the mannequin to make sure you had gone through the target area( heart & lungs )
Fortunately I dont have to do another night shooting course when applying for this license as the one did as above is acceptable.
When I was involved with another nighttime cull organised and run by NE we did a classroom ecology and shooting test at night under NV, thermal or white light depending which was your chosen method and this was at no cost to the shooter!
The shooting test was done in the dark at 4inch target at 70 meters and than at a mannequins covered with silver foil ( for thermal scopes) at different angles and the examiner would check with a long rod the bullets path through the mannequin to make sure you had gone through the target area( heart & lungs )
Fortunately I dont have to do another night shooting course when applying for this license as the one did as above is acceptable.
cookingfat
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I think your wrong Lee, its not the fact that people are desperate to shoot deer at night! they are just using it as a useful tool in the box when they are struggling to control some species of deer under normal culling activities.I’m an ex keeper I can shoot at night if I need too, I’ll be buggered if I’ll do it!
I just watch all you lot that are so desperate to shoot deer at night, I think it’s hilarious
Norfolk Deer Search
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Tony,
When you watch people that you know have no ground, lineup to do the course because it’s another certificate in their army it is hilarious!
All it will do is push the deer into places where they can’t be got simple as that, yes short gains will be made but in the long ball park they will just change. It’s called survival that’s what they do.
cookingfat
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Yes there's some element of truth in that statement and there will always be people who just won't to do a course.
Fallow and Red will always go to where its safe when pushed when you put them under any pressure day or night.
Norfolk Deer Search
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That’s fact Tony, I’m seeing it already on a bit of red deer ground!
During stalking hours, nothing during nighttime nothing all over the boundary where they can’t be got!
I don’t do that piece of ground anymore, but there’s a new Farmer who’s renting the ground and you know exactly what he’s doing. You can see it a mile off when you have a piece of ground that’s had red deer on it for the last 20 years and now there’s no red deer on it what does that tell you?
They did. I got a phone call offering me the subsidised course.
I'm certainly not "desperate to shoot deer at night". It'll be another string to a bow, that will work in some places and not in others.
Honestly though, some of these comments just amount to elitism or gatekeeping. It's all "they only shoot fallow but I shoot red therefore I'm better", "wait until they have to extract a red at night", "I don't need a course because I'm so wise and therefore if you want a course you're just an idiot"
How about you do you and if people want or need a course, let them and don't pass judgement. Don't go out of your way to make posts on a subject that you yourselves say that you have no need of.
bottletopbill
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Inot "desperate to shoot deer at night". It'll be another string to a bow, that will work in some places and not in others.
Why is this being put down to those who have no permission. So lets respect every ones decision to attend the course or not thought all stalkers were after stalking
No elitism here just curious as to why some folk love collecting bits of paper ? You don’t need a course to shoot rabbits gates or foxes at night seems ridiculous you should need one for deer , if the government want to allow night shooting fair enough to me valid fac insurance and written permission is more than enough, but again some folk are just cert collectors and in my experience they’re the ones actually not shooting many deer at all
bottletopbill
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I agree with you but in deer stalking you have so many money making schemes . so how many courses will we have in a few years time and the cost.
They say licensing fees are putting of shooters plus course cost no wonder folks are leaving.
kenbro
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Who tested the instructors?
KB.
But they've put it as a condition of the CL55 (category 1), so unless you meet another category then you need it. I'm not saying everyone needs CL55, but some will and some people are in an area of such need that they actually got phone calls asking them to attend subsidised courses.
These were BDS instructors
I just think it’s laughable personally if we refused to put up with such ridiculous courses they’d be forced to relax the rules and it would be the same as lamping rabbits foxes etc but as I say folk love a course far too many sheep in this game
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Refuse to do them they’re not necessary
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