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Pricing people (especially youngsters) out
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Bo Diddley
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Clay shooting has always been expensive relative to wages.
I gave up 30 years ago after a trip to High Lodge. Three of us literally "Smoked" into the car park in an old Ford Escort, parked up amongst the BMWs, Audis, and Range Rovers, shot our practise rounds of FITASC with a few others to form our squad, turns out they had only just returned from three days of high-driven pheasant shooting... it was at that point I realised I was out of my depth with what I could afford to pay for shooting...
I should have stuck with the affordable side, pigeons, cock days, and vermin.
Pretty much what I now do, and I really enjoy it all. I'm not fussed at all about shooting game or clays with a shotgun. Foxing, ratting and a few small deer, and I'm happy as Larry.
I bet High Lodge has changed a lot since I last darkened John's doorstep.
I gave up 30 years ago after a trip to High Lodge. Three of us literally "Smoked" into the car park in an old Ford Escort, parked up amongst the BMWs, Audis, and Range Rovers, shot our practise rounds of FITASC with a few others to form our squad, turns out they had only just returned from three days of high-driven pheasant shooting... it was at that point I realised I was out of my depth with what I could afford to pay for shooting...
I should have stuck with the affordable side, pigeons, cock days, and vermin.
Pretty much what I now do, and I really enjoy it all. I'm not fussed at all about shooting game or clays with a shotgun. Foxing, ratting and a few small deer, and I'm happy as Larry.
I bet High Lodge has changed a lot since I last darkened John's doorstep.
I've said it for years there's a huge push from fishing and shooting to get "youngsters" into the sport "because they're the future" (ever since I started shooting 5 years ago).
Yes. They are the future - literally. Likely 5-10+ years down the line before they even start thinking about shooting independently.
What about those 23-35 (ish) folk who are as Pedro pointed out, the ones with the disposable income? What if they want to get into the sport but with no assistance (as there usually isn't). That was me in the most part. It's still a very, very expensive hurdle... And arguably, these are the much more present future of shooting.
Another observation, there is unending amount of "city/townie" blame game for everything anti-fieldsports. But consider how accessible (or more correctly, inaccessible) shooting (and fishing) is to people who live in a larger town or city. Car ownership in cities is perishingly low, towns better, but still not an easy expense. I don't know of a single shooting ground in Scotland that is accessible by public transport, same with trout fisheries (although maybe 1 in Edinburgh you could get to by bus).
The £50 some pays to just to do a 10 or 20 shot clay taster is just the tip of the iceberg on how the fieldsports are pushing the town/city vs rural divide wider.
(And before anyone starts, yes I know plenty of people who also live in the city that shoot. The vast majority either grew up in families that shoot - usually based outside of city life or absolutely minted, or are individually wealthy that such concerns aren't a factor - these ones also usually work in circles where shooting is a thing too. So again, they all generally have someone to take them shooting to support them getting up and running with it)
Yes. They are the future - literally. Likely 5-10+ years down the line before they even start thinking about shooting independently.
What about those 23-35 (ish) folk who are as Pedro pointed out, the ones with the disposable income? What if they want to get into the sport but with no assistance (as there usually isn't). That was me in the most part. It's still a very, very expensive hurdle... And arguably, these are the much more present future of shooting.
Another observation, there is unending amount of "city/townie" blame game for everything anti-fieldsports. But consider how accessible (or more correctly, inaccessible) shooting (and fishing) is to people who live in a larger town or city. Car ownership in cities is perishingly low, towns better, but still not an easy expense. I don't know of a single shooting ground in Scotland that is accessible by public transport, same with trout fisheries (although maybe 1 in Edinburgh you could get to by bus).
The £50 some pays to just to do a 10 or 20 shot clay taster is just the tip of the iceberg on how the fieldsports are pushing the town/city vs rural divide wider.
(And before anyone starts, yes I know plenty of people who also live in the city that shoot. The vast majority either grew up in families that shoot - usually based outside of city life or absolutely minted, or are individually wealthy that such concerns aren't a factor - these ones also usually work in circles where shooting is a thing too. So again, they all generally have someone to take them shooting to support them getting up and running with it)
Bavarianbrit
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Can you travel on a bus in the UK with a firearm in a slip?
reiver
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Had to sell my Range Rover as I couldn’t afford the breakdowns every month !!Snap
Great motor just unreliable especially in the V8
Jagare
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I don't think clays are any more expensive to shoot than when I was younger. Not clay shooting, but when I was 16 and earning a fiver a week, a box of .410 cartridges cost 7/6p, so about a sixth of my weekly wage. But in those days and much of my life, I did not have all the things to pay for or worry about that youngsters have today, mainly because they didn't exist.
£70 for clays is hardly a meal out for two these days. If young people are really keen on getting into shooting, they will find a way. Some times you have to sacrifice other things do do what really want to do. Such is life
£70 for clays is hardly a meal out for two these days. If young people are really keen on getting into shooting, they will find a way. Some times you have to sacrifice other things do do what really want to do. Such is life
Had to sell my Range Rover as I couldn’t afford the breakdowns every month !!
Great motor just unreliable especially in the V8
Mines been incredibly reliable, 2014 140k miles now, just regular maintenance (4.4 sdV8)
jon 12
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More than likely if you had a read of the clay grounds rules, and their insurance it would probably state no home loads allowed.
May be completely wrong though.
reiver
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I knew there must be one reliable RR mine had electrical issues mostly down to the 101 sensors made of chocolate that they fitted
You have always needed some £££ to shoot clays.
That’s why you see more older shooters. I have shot clays for 30 years and there were only ever a few juniors.
More ladies now which is a good thing cos they will not,come if they have to pish in a bush or the fat in the pan has not been changed since the ground opened. Or while I have that ground in mind, you have to jam the door shut with your foot when you are going for a crap.
That’s why you see more older shooters. I have shot clays for 30 years and there were only ever a few juniors.
More ladies now which is a good thing cos they will not,come if they have to pish in a bush or the fat in the pan has not been changed since the ground opened. Or while I have that ground in mind, you have to jam the door shut with your foot when you are going for a crap.
you are just like otherwise no home loads for rifle shooting. However you cannot use them at a CPSA registered shoot.
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