Leec6.5
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Thank you missed that bit off the end
On average are American shooters worse shooters than British shooters?
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The Wild Deer Association of Ireland do that - fun competition various positions, resting - no rear rest, sticks, single stick only, 100-200m...1 MOA harder than many think if not rested front and rear.
Leec6.5
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Used to do that with the st Herbert club years ago
No he never. He was pointing to the fact that moa isn’t an inch plus a gnats cock, it’s an angular measurement. So although it may equate to an inch plus a gnats cock at 100 yards, it’s two inches plus two gnats cocks at 200 yards and so on.
timbrayford
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Good shooting means using whatever aids are available to enhance consistent accuracy together with any safety considerations too.
Leec6.5
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Leec6.5
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I wouldn’t worry too much about it, there are too many here that can’t hit a barn door and need digital scopes to shoot deer because the of the unpaid desperation to shoot deer!
At least from what I know about public land hunting in the US it’s PROPER hunting
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UpNorthMI
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Well that's a very wide open question, first of all consider the number of shooters:
United States:
Between 46 million and 63.5 million people participate in target and sport shooting annually in the United States, according to participation and demographic surveys conducted by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and the National Shooting Sports Foundation. [1, 2]
The shooting sports are widespread, with data showing significant engagement across various categories: [1, 2]
UK:
There are approximately 620,000 individuals actively involved in shooting-related activities across the UK. This includes sport, hunting, target shooting, and countryside management. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Across the country, there are roughly 500,000 licensed firearm owners, which accounts for about 1% of the total population. [1]
Breakdown of Participants:
With todays rifles, scopes, bullet's etc., it comes down to the individual not nationality. UK shooters are grossly out numbered by US shooters, maybe we should be looking at international competition results for the answer.......lol
As a young man in the UK I used to enjoy going down to Bisley and shooting all of the pistol competitions once a year. I was a very active practical pistol shooter and had a couple of race guns. I once achieved a sub 3 second time for shooting 6 plates with my .45, my time stood for a day or so until the US Smith & Wesson team arrived, they achieved many scores that were .5 of a second quicker than my score getting much closer to 2 seconds than I could even dream about!
United States:
Between 46 million and 63.5 million people participate in target and sport shooting annually in the United States, according to participation and demographic surveys conducted by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and the National Shooting Sports Foundation. [1, 2]
The shooting sports are widespread, with data showing significant engagement across various categories: [1, 2]
- Firearm Target Shooting: Approximately 47 million Americans participate in firearm target shooting.
- Broader Sport Shooting: When including all recreational target shooting (such as informal shooting on private property), estimates from the NSSF Participation Reports suggest the participant base reaches over 63.5 million people.
- Clay Target Sports: Roughly 19.5 million people participate in sports like trap, skeet, and sporting clays.
- Archery: About 19 million Americans participate in target archery. [1, 2, 3, 4]
UK:
There are approximately 620,000 individuals actively involved in shooting-related activities across the UK. This includes sport, hunting, target shooting, and countryside management. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Across the country, there are roughly 500,000 licensed firearm owners, which accounts for about 1% of the total population. [1]
Breakdown of Participants:
- Game Shooting: 293,000 participants
- Target Shooting & Other Disciplines: 327,000 participants (including clay target, rifle, and air rifle shooting) [1, 2, 3]
With todays rifles, scopes, bullet's etc., it comes down to the individual not nationality. UK shooters are grossly out numbered by US shooters, maybe we should be looking at international competition results for the answer.......lol
As a young man in the UK I used to enjoy going down to Bisley and shooting all of the pistol competitions once a year. I was a very active practical pistol shooter and had a couple of race guns. I once achieved a sub 3 second time for shooting 6 plates with my .45, my time stood for a day or so until the US Smith & Wesson team arrived, they achieved many scores that were .5 of a second quicker than my score getting much closer to 2 seconds than I could even dream about!
Actually, I'd argue that it's one round, striking the intended target, cold bore.
Groups are for training and accuracy assessment. Accurate, single hits, are what kill. And killing is always the end result/challenge we seek., whether it be two legged or four.
You are right, that is ultimately what matters. I was referring to the challenge outlined at the beginning of the thread.
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Pine Marten
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I wish I had a way of just going to try this that didn't require taking a day off work, booking two weeks in advance, redoing a test made up by the NRA and doing a supervised zeroing test because I'm not using lead. Because I'd love to just go and try this quickly for fun and edification.
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