22/250 50gr speed
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I did load up some rounds for the 22-250 using Hornady 35g NTX (non lead bullets) and some Lilgun powder
Stupidly fast, (well above 4500fps) but it blew the primers out of their pockets and the bolt lift was, to say the least rather stiff
Not a load to be repeated
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Bruce
Stupidly fast, (well above 4500fps) but it blew the primers out of their pockets and the bolt lift was, to say the least rather stiff
Not a load to be repeated
Cheers
Bruce
cci large rifle primers, I noticed in the 308 there was a lot of residue left over, much cleaner in 22/250
Speeds like that eat barrels, almost overnight.
had the rifle since 2006, it’s about time it gets a new barrelSpeeds like that eat barrels, almost overnight.
had the rifle since 2006, it’s about time it gets a new barrel
You bin getti'n complaints about them barn doors then?had the rifle since 2006, it’s about time it gets a new barrel
Smellydog
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I'd be careful for what thou wishes for.
The 22-250 was developed for long range prairie dog towns. Thin skinned rodents smaller than our rabbits.
Pushing varmint bullets to these speeds actually makes them less effective sub 300 yards on fox's.
I know, I have the t shirt!
To many shallow wounds, that's if we found the fox!
Once it was slowed down to 223 velocities we got much more consistent results on fox's.
Even crows displayed very shallow wounds with no part of the bullet ever passing through the crow this side of 300yd!
We started off refering to it's super flat performance as a death ray blah blah. But it wasn't! In fact at the time and after losing a roe my friend at the time wished he had gone with 243 as he originally intended.
Prior to this he just used his 270 for everything and it was only because of a knee trembler he thought he better get a smaller rifle for night duty. All I will say is when comparing the two it was a major disappointment.
Your milage may be different.
The 22-250 was developed for long range prairie dog towns. Thin skinned rodents smaller than our rabbits.
Pushing varmint bullets to these speeds actually makes them less effective sub 300 yards on fox's.
I know, I have the t shirt!
To many shallow wounds, that's if we found the fox!
Once it was slowed down to 223 velocities we got much more consistent results on fox's.
Even crows displayed very shallow wounds with no part of the bullet ever passing through the crow this side of 300yd!
We started off refering to it's super flat performance as a death ray blah blah. But it wasn't! In fact at the time and after losing a roe my friend at the time wished he had gone with 243 as he originally intended.
Prior to this he just used his 270 for everything and it was only because of a knee trembler he thought he better get a smaller rifle for night duty. All I will say is when comparing the two it was a major disappointment.
Your milage may be different.
On the topic of warm 22-250 rounds, I am using 41.5gn of RS60 with a 50gn Nosler bullet in my Savage 110 22-250, and get 4100fps. However, it is not wonderfully accurate so am tuning downwards from this max. I found 41.5gn of RS60 does not cause ejector marks, nor cases to stick, nor any problems with the bolt, nor primers to blow out: pressure from GT is just under 65kpsi. It is an American gun so I was loading for only 55K psi initially, and went up from that as there were no pressure signs at all, primer edges were the same as one that was not fired. At 64.5K, primer edges are quite square though, so this is clearly delivering what GT says it would in terms of pressure.I did load up some rounds for the 22-250 using Hornady 35g NTX (non lead bullets) and some Lilgun powder
Stupidly fast, (well above 4500fps) but it blew the primers out of their pockets and the bolt lift was, to say the least rather stiff
Not a load to be repeated
On side notes, if I use RS14 or a similar pistol powder, one can get the same speeds with half the powder ... there must be a reason people don't do that, even though the pressure curve on GT looks better than the RS60. I know a filler would be needed to keep the powder packed properly in the case. 20gn of RS14 would be more economical than 41.5 of RS60, so am thinking of doing that experiment in practice.
And observers at the range report a few interesting effects with the Savage 110 thread protector, which acts like a muzzle break in blowing foam out of noise abatement barrels on the range, AND blows the casing back onto the ejectors. It also causes a white streak to follow the bullet, not something I have seen on any other gun anywhere. The white streak runs for 50 yards. It is as if the gap between barrel crown and the end of the thread protector focuses a pressure wave. The bullet is not touching the thread protector.
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I tried 35 gr Vmax in my 22.250, shot 1 Fox at around 270yds and watched it run into a wood over 100yds away (i found the fox very shortly after and dispatched it) never used 35 Vmax again. It was a very shallow wound bang on the money but failed to penetrate.
In the 1990’s I had this “shallow wound “problem with my 22-250 with Hornady varmint bullets switched to Nosler BT s and have used them ever since.
Envillegc1
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I have not handloaded 22-250 yet!
But factory load out of my bergara were 3700.
Hornady 50gr vmax superperformance and clover leafing or better at 100 yds.
But factory load out of my bergara were 3700.
Hornady 50gr vmax superperformance and clover leafing or better at 100 yds.
The 22/250 is a fantastic cartridge when the right load is used, stop fannying around and use proper bullets and the splash wounds will disappear. I've never seen one in the fifteen years of owning a 22/250. A good 50/52 grain bullet going around 36-3700fps or the fantastic Sierra 1365, 55g soft point @ 3600fps is a real sweet spot and going plenty fast enough. For a factory load try the Norma 52gr soft point, if you can find them, they're excellent too. Just my bit on it, others may think differently.
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Len the dog
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I’ve been using 50gr Vmax and 55gr Blitzking, both at around 3600 or a touch over. The Blitzking, whilst knocking them over, aren’t quite as dramatic as the Vmax, which pretty much either turn them inside out or into a bag of soup.
It’s fair to say that the only surface wounds I’m seeing are on the opposite side of the fox whether at 40yds or 140.
It’s fair to say that the only surface wounds I’m seeing are on the opposite side of the fox whether at 40yds or 140.
Well said and true
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