45/70 vs 30-30 underlever

Tregullon

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Looking for an underlever that will serve for boar and deer but will mostly be used on the target range. Recoil on the 45/70s I have tried has been sufficient to deter overuse (shall we say) but wondering if a 30/30 is 'enough gun' for large boar. Any comments from users whoi have shot both - advantages/disadvantages - sought. Thanks in advance
 
Looking for an underlever that will serve for boar and deer but will mostly be used on the target range. Recoil on the 45/70s I have tried has been sufficient to deter overuse (shall we say) but wondering if a 30/30 is 'enough gun' for large boar. Any comments from users whoi have shot both - advantages/disadvantages - sought. Thanks in advance
30-30 will be fine.
From small game to large game it does it all.
 
Good luck finding a 307 and who told you a 30/30 is to slow?
In Scotland it is too slow. No Remington factory ammunition is fast enough, nor is Winchester or Federal or Hornady. Their 140 grain MonoFlex only makes, just, 2,460fps in a 24" barrel. Now I agree that the velocity is, yes, perfectly adequate in real terms but in Scotland it won't be considered as fast enough. But yes in England and Wales and inside its limitations at under one hundred and fifty yards it is perfectly adequate. But I'd still consider, personally, that it's too slow. But that's my opinion and no more nor less that that. That's the fascination of our sport all opinions are welcome. There. I'm "out" I'm velocity prejudiced! To me 2,600 fps is the altar I worship on...excepting the .303 174 grain!
 
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In Scotland it is too slow. No Remington factory ammunition is fast enough, nor is Winchester or Federal or Hornady. Their 140 grain MonoFlex only makes, just, 2,460fps in a 24" barrel. Now I agree that the velocity is, yes, perfectly adequate in real terms but in Scotland it won't be considered as fast enough. But yes in England and Wales and inside its limitations at under one hundred and fifty yards it is perfectly adequate. But I'd still consider, personally, that it's too slow. But that's my opinion and no more nor less that that. That's the fascination of our sport all opinions are welcome. There. I'm "out" I'm velocity prejudiced! To me 2,600 fps is the altar I worship on...excepting the .303 174 grain!
I reload 130gn Speers. They make the dumb limit.
Factory ammo is for girls and boys 😂
 
Looking for an underlever that will serve for boar and deer but will mostly be used on the target range. Recoil on the 45/70s I have tried has been sufficient to deter overuse (shall we say) but wondering if a 30/30 is 'enough gun' for large boar. Any comments from users whoi have shot both - advantages/disadvantages - sought. Thanks in advance

Do you know what loads you were shooting through the 45-70?
 
I've used both on large game for a number of years . On large game ( Moose , Elk , Grizzly ) , the 45/70 has a distinct advantage . That being said , the 30/30 has been , and still is , used on these animals regularly . If I were hunting in the UK for any deer species within 200 yards , I would happily use a 30/30 and not look back . It does have the advantage of lighter recoil and less cost to feed . This will encourage more time shooting the rifle , always a good thing . I prefer a 45/70 , mostly because I regularly run into large , and potentially dangerous , animals . I don't consider Black Bears as large game , but they can be dangerous . They are taken regularly with 30/30 chambered rifles . If they can cleanly kill a 400 pound Bear , I would say that they're capable of taking Boar . I would stick to heavier , or sturdier , bullets though . If you intend to scope whatever rifle you choose , I'd go with a Marlin or Henry lever , they're far easier to scope , other than the Winchester 94AE . I've always preferred Marlins because of this , and the fact that you can pull the bolt after removing one screw , the lever pivot screw , so you can clean the barrel from the breech end . The Winchester designs don't allow for this . Let us know what you decide on .

AB
 
IF RUNNING and folks aint all safe in high seats / platforms ? Forget 30-30 its not got the welly required to help with a poorly placed shot and some poor ****** is going to have to go out and find / dispatch it ! I dont shoot boar but they are big tough animals that are genuinely a risk I know folks badly injured. Different matter if you shooting over a baited area 45-70 can be tamed but TBF i dont find them real bad at all - Its going to push you mind . Set the thing up so its fits consider a moderator ( not all the models except them btw) if no mod try a break but make damb sure you have plugs and ear muffs .
Been on and off about buying one myself but its just the fact it might only be used on a hunt every 18months or so ? They are imho not a good tool for regular UK deerstalking but maybe good for tracking work if your ok with deaf dogs!
 
Looking for an underlever that will serve for boar and deer but will mostly be used on the target range. Recoil on the 45/70s I have tried has been sufficient to deter overuse (shall we say) but wondering if a 30/30 is 'enough gun' for large boar. Any comments from users whoi have shot both - advantages/disadvantages - sought. Thanks in advance
In a answer to your question . The .30-30 would not be suitable for big boar. In Sweden its a class 2 rifle and can be used on nothing larger than roe. I suspect it would be a illegal round for large game in most of Europe? Save the .30-30 for fun on the range and get a .30 cal that is more suitable.

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