A good one to take

Out this morning with a buddy, feeling incredibly rough and spending most of my time trying not to be a coughing and spluttering liability.

We enter the first field and immediately see a fallow buck but he's right on the edge of the field and the only backstop is the woods. No good.

We decide to try and move around so that we could approach from another angle and possibly get a backstop, but it's no good because as we move he actually moves with us giving us no backstop until he finally decides to pop into the wood along with the other couple that we hadn't seen laying down over the crest of the hill.

No bother, it's only the beginning. We head into the wood and stalk into the middle where the main deer thoroughfare is. We see bundles of them. Roe to the front and right, and fallow off to the left. We don't even get a chance at a shot though, as two fallow come marching right up to within 10ft of us and scarper before we've even had the chance to respond. All the others follow.

The woods seem absolutely devoid of deer at this point so we make our way back up to the cars, to then drop down a different field and then into a different wood.

Things are looking good when I spy two to three thermal signatures in the woodland ahead of us. We decide to sneak up to the fence line of the wood and see if we can see what they are from the tree line. As we get closer, we can see them through a break in the trees. Damn! 4 or 5 sheep have gotten into the woods. I let the owner know and we proceed.

At the end of this wood, we cross a bridleway and had into the larger wood. Not long in and I'm picking up something on the thermal. One fallow laying down, I can see the back end of it.

I tell my my partner to get up on sticks, and I proceed to do the same as backup. We've already been out together once before, but that was unsuccessful. This time it looks like we are good. It's about 100m, so I ask him how confident he is with his rifle. The answer is very. Excellent.

It's a fallow doe, and she stands up looking our way so a chest shot is no good as it'd make a right mess and exit the back end. I'm considering neck but I'm only there as a backup anyway. She lays down, broadside.

I look over to my shooting partner. He tells me he wants me to take it, so I do.

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It's a good shot considering she was laying down. Both lungs gone and a nice exit wound.

We do the gralloch and realise why she was laying down so much.

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Feet rotten and the start of Aladdin's slipper. Good one to take then.

Also got a chance to try out the new sled. It's the apex ready sled, and it packs away into a little tube style. Packaging. Unpack it, pack the deer in it, and drag away. Nice and easy.

Now back home and in the chiller. Lovely Wednesday morning.

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sounds like a great morning to me, and a good one to take indeed. That little fridge looks just the job 👍
 
Sounds like a good morning for both of you - assume that this was the first use of the Habroks ‘in anger’? - how did they stack up?

Got to ask too, why leave the head on when it’s in the chiller?
 
Sounds like a good morning for both of you - assume that this was the first use of the Habroks ‘in anger’? - how did they stack up?

Got to ask too, why leave the head on when it’s in the chiller?
Habroks were excellent. More base mag than the pulsar, which I was concerned about. Wasn't an issue though. Love the instant switch to optical mode.

Also much easier using them with sticks in hand.

The head... By the time we got it back home and weighed it, I was about ready to die of deadly man-flu. I'll whip the head off tomorrow
 
Got to ask too, why leave the head on when it’s in the chiller?
The head... By the time we got it back home and weighed it, I was about ready to die of deadly man-flu. I'll whip the head off tomorrow
Good idea to leave the head on in the chiller, if you've got enough height below the rail. Keeps the neck stretched out nice and straight, making skinning and butchering easier.
I'd leave it as it is if I was you, @Jh1986.
 
Good idea to leave the head on in the chiller, if you've got enough height below the rail. Keeps the neck stretched out nice and straight, making skinning and butchering easier.
I'd leave it as it is if I was you, @Jh1986.
Every day is a school day - never even considered leaving the head on to make skinning & butchering easier 👍
Habroks were excellent. More base mag than the pulsar, which I was concerned about. Wasn't an issue though. Love the instant switch to optical mode.

Also much easier using them with sticks in hand.

The head... By the time we got it back home and weighed it, I was about ready to die of deadly man-flu. I'll whip the head off tomorrow
sounds like you have man-flu 🤒 🤧 😷
 
Every day is a school day - never even considered leaving the head on to make skinning & butchering easier 👍
It might not suit everyone, but I don't cut the head off until I'm about to start skinning. Started doing it that way a couple of years ago, and I think it's much easier than trying to deal with the banana-like neck of a carcass that's been hung without head.
Give it a try sometime and see what you think.

Another way to keep it straight is to make an incision and sever the thick tendon that runs up the back of the neck, but that not only risks introducing contamination, but also spoils the hide (which potentially has value once tanned).
 
It might not suit everyone, but I don't cut the head off until I'm about to start skinning. Started doing it that way a couple of years ago, and I think it's much easier than trying to deal with the banana-like neck of a carcass that's been hung without head.
Give it a try sometime and see what you think.

Another way to keep it straight is to make an incision and sever the thick tendon that runs up the back of the neck, but that not only risks introducing contamination, but also spoils the hide (which potentially has value once tanned).
That is fine with a tall unit but the majority of people don't have that choice using drinks chillers where any mid size deer's hung buy the hocks then head will on the floor, add a set of antlers and you have no chance.
 
That is fine with a tall unit but the majority of people don't have that choice using drinks chillers where any mid size deer's hung buy the hocks then head will on the floor, add a set of antlers and you have no chance.

As I said, it won't suit everyone.
But if you've got the height it's worth trying.
 
Tim likes to have a good work out pulling that cart fully loaded up and down ditches.
But things have changed I noticed on Sunday I used a electric winch on the red deer (thank god he got that fitted)
That was one big deer i will try to add photo's asap
I would not like to pull that cart loaded with that red on it. (shows how well he built the cart to carry that weight )
 
As I said, it won't suit everyone.
But if you've got the height it's worth trying.
I have a walk-in chiller and that buck would not fit with its head on, I would say it would be a very very slim chance people will have a chiller with the height then loose the extra room taken up by racks of antlers.
If it was a viable practice with benefits then people leaving heads on would be common across from the Fred in a Shed to the high volume lads.
I get you like to do it but don't think it will be adopted because of the constraints of height/room people have with small units which are very common in the stalking world.
 
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That one was a really tight squeeze with the head on. Also absolutely back breaking getting it onto the bar. On the rings it's on there, it's about 1700mm to the bar. My risers get it slightly higher.

If I were buying a chiller now, I'd still get a domestic sort because I'm not flash enough for a Landing. I'd get one with an uncluttered and unused top. I'd fit a rail that goes back to front, with an extension that screws in to protrude out the front. I'd then have a winch above it
 
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That one was a really tight squeeze with the head on. Also absolutely back breaking getting it onto the bar. On the rings it's on there, it's about 1700mm to the bar. My risers get it slightly higher.

If I were buying a chiller now, I'd still get a domestic sort because I'm not flash enough for a Landing. I'd get one with an uncluttered and unused top. I'd fit a rail that goes back to front, with an extension that screws in to protrude out the front. I'd then have a winch above it
Imagine if you hung it from the hocks!!
 
I have a walk-in chiller and that buck would not fit with its head on, I would say it would be a very very slim chance people will have a chiller with the height then loose the extra room taken up by racks of antlers.
If it was a viable practice with benefits then people leaving heads on would be common across from the Fred in a Shed to the high volume lads.
I get you like to do it but don't think it will be adopted because of the constraints of height/room people have with small units which are very common in the stalking world.
Well the option is there if anyone has the height to try it. Antlers can be sawn off if they're in the way.
It's a bit like hanging from the aitch bone I guess - some people do advocate that, but it's not the most widely adopted method 😉
 
Well the option is there if anyone has the height to try it. Antlers can be sawn off if they're in the way.
It's a bit like hanging from the aitch bone I guess - some people do advocate that, but it's not the most widely adopted method 😉
Yes the OP never sawed the antlers off, hung from the Aitch bone and still ran out of room. :stag:
 
Out this morning with a buddy, feeling incredibly rough and spending most of my time trying not to be a coughing and spluttering liability.

We enter the first field and immediately see a fallow buck but he's right on the edge of the field and the only backstop is the woods. No good.

We decide to try and move around so that we could approach from another angle and possibly get a backstop, but it's no good because as we move he actually moves with us giving us no backstop until he finally decides to pop into the wood along with the other couple that we hadn't seen laying down over the crest of the hill.

No bother, it's only the beginning. We head into the wood and stalk into the middle where the main deer thoroughfare is. We see bundles of them. Roe to the front and right, and fallow off to the left. We don't even get a chance at a shot though, as two fallow come marching right up to within 10ft of us and scarper before we've even had the chance to respond. All the others follow.

The woods seem absolutely devoid of deer at this point so we make our way back up to the cars, to then drop down a different field and then into a different wood.

Things are looking good when I spy two to three thermal signatures in the woodland ahead of us. We decide to sneak up to the fence line of the wood and see if we can see what they are from the tree line. As we get closer, we can see them through a break in the trees. Damn! 4 or 5 sheep have gotten into the woods. I let the owner know and we proceed.

At the end of this wood, we cross a bridleway and had into the larger wood. Not long in and I'm picking up something on the thermal. One fallow laying down, I can see the back end of it.

I tell my my partner to get up on sticks, and I proceed to do the same as backup. We've already been out together once before, but that was unsuccessful. This time it looks like we are good. It's about 100m, so I ask him how confident he is with his rifle. The answer is very. Excellent.

It's a fallow doe, and she stands up looking our way so a chest shot is no good as it'd make a right mess and exit the back end. I'm considering neck but I'm only there as a backup anyway. She lays down, broadside.

I look over to my shooting partner. He tells me he wants me to take it, so I do.

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It's a good shot considering she was laying down. Both lungs gone and a nice exit wound.

We do the gralloch and realise why she was laying down so much.

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Feet rotten and the start of Aladdin's slipper. Good one to take then.

Also got a chance to try out the new sled. It's the apex ready sled, and it packs away into a little tube style. Packaging. Unpack it, pack the deer in it, and drag away. Nice and easy.

Now back home and in the chiller. Lovely Wednesday morning.

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A great read and sounds like a great morning together. Thanks for sharing it with us. definitely a good one to take. What thermal are you using please?
 
A great read and sounds like a great morning together. Thanks for sharing it with us. definitely a good one to take. What thermal are you using please?
Just switched to the HE25L Habrok. Not as good thermally as my last Pulsar, but great only carrying one thing and the thermal is easily good enough for stalking.
 
Just switched to the HE25L Habrok. Not as good thermally as my last Pulsar, but great only carrying one thing and the thermal is easily good enough for stalking.
was the pulsar just thermal or optical too? what became of that?
 
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