Ammo from the USA to uk
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As long as you stick to the airlines specific rules (this is usually how to package it etc), and stay below 5kg of ammo, and have it available on your cert, it's no issue at all!
And you have to notify the airline BEFORE you get there...
On uk side, you let customs know (declare), they check your cert, and the amount of ammo you have with you and what you're allowed, decide whether you pay duty...then they're supposed to put it on your FAC for you...this doesn't always happen though.
And you have to notify the airline BEFORE you get there...
On uk side, you let customs know (declare), they check your cert, and the amount of ammo you have with you and what you're allowed, decide whether you pay duty...then they're supposed to put it on your FAC for you...this doesn't always happen though.
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Petty sure it would fall under ITAR International Traffic in Arms Regulations - Wikipedia
You can't even export unchambered barrels from the US without a permit so I can't see ammo being allowed. I am certainly no expert mind and I am sure one of them will be over shortly.
You can't even export unchambered barrels from the US without a permit so I can't see ammo being allowed. I am certainly no expert mind and I am sure one of them will be over shortly.
Tartan_Terrier
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Might be an idea if you were over on a hunting or shooting trip, so you could replenish the ammunition that you'd shot off on the trip.
Otherwise as said above, it probably wouldn't be worth the cost and bother involved.
Otherwise as said above, it probably wouldn't be worth the cost and bother involved.
devon deer stalker
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If you don't use BA it is worth the bother, it is so much cheaper.
Cheers
Richard
Cheers
Richard
flying felix
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Here's some advice I posted on an earlier thread on the subject:
Hi guys,
Looks as there is a lot of confusion and misunderstanding on the Carriage of firearms and ammunition on air transportation.
First is to understand there are three elements involved the Carrier, the Handler and the Airport Security.
The Carrier is the airline that you are travelling with and they should be the only aspect you need to deal with prior to your planned flight. Under ICAO rules they (the carrier) can carry up to 5 kg of (Sporting) Small Arms Ammunition of HD 1.4 per passenger. “Sporting” is used to distinguish between commercial/ governmental/ military transportation. The reason it is preferred to be in the manufacturers’ packaging is that it has tested and given a UN certification and where necessary a ESTC transportation code. Although carriers have this dispensation to the carriage of dangerous good by air, they are not obliged to so, and have the right to refuse. The carrier may request proof of permission to hold as arriving in a foreign country without a legal reason to have said firearms and ammunition can lead to a prosecution of the carrier. Same as arriving without a valid passport or visa.
The Handler are the ground crews who look after the aircraft, load it up, refuel etc. All firearms and ammunition should be treated as “secure baggage” that means it is taken from the check in area directly to the aircraft by the handler or their agent and not along the baggage transportation system. The Handlers may charge the Carrier to do this and as a result the cost may get passed onto the passenger.
Airport Security are responsible for ensuring prohibited and forbidden items are identified in baggage and on passengers. First thing to remember is that prohibited does not mean that it is not allowed, just that its carriage requires additional conditions. You should not go airport security before reaching the check in so generally it is not an issue. In high security airports then just declare that you are legally carrying firearms and ammunition and have your legal paperwork ready. You can also ask for items found at security to go into secure baggage as well. For example I was carrying a laser sight in by hand baggage (many years before the high intensity lasers came out). The security declared it as an offensive weapon and said that it would be confiscated. They were very surprised when I said that although they had the right to declare it an offensive weapon they had no right to confiscate it and I wanted it to be sent to the cabin crew as secure baggage. One of the security staff had to then come to the gate and hand it over to the cabin crew and it was given back to me as I got off the flight. The same as injected medication etc. It can be handy when you know the rules better than the staff!
So, contact the carrier and only the carrier and ask do they allow the carriage of sporting firearms (never use the term weapons) and ammunition and what are THEIR requirements. Declare at the time of booking the flight (phone up after booking online) and again at arrival at check in.
Having said all that, I’ve stood at baggage claim desk while they were frantically trying to find my ammo when the wife spotted it coming down the baggage carousel with everyone else’s bags.
Hi guys,
Looks as there is a lot of confusion and misunderstanding on the Carriage of firearms and ammunition on air transportation.
First is to understand there are three elements involved the Carrier, the Handler and the Airport Security.
The Carrier is the airline that you are travelling with and they should be the only aspect you need to deal with prior to your planned flight. Under ICAO rules they (the carrier) can carry up to 5 kg of (Sporting) Small Arms Ammunition of HD 1.4 per passenger. “Sporting” is used to distinguish between commercial/ governmental/ military transportation. The reason it is preferred to be in the manufacturers’ packaging is that it has tested and given a UN certification and where necessary a ESTC transportation code. Although carriers have this dispensation to the carriage of dangerous good by air, they are not obliged to so, and have the right to refuse. The carrier may request proof of permission to hold as arriving in a foreign country without a legal reason to have said firearms and ammunition can lead to a prosecution of the carrier. Same as arriving without a valid passport or visa.
The Handler are the ground crews who look after the aircraft, load it up, refuel etc. All firearms and ammunition should be treated as “secure baggage” that means it is taken from the check in area directly to the aircraft by the handler or their agent and not along the baggage transportation system. The Handlers may charge the Carrier to do this and as a result the cost may get passed onto the passenger.
Airport Security are responsible for ensuring prohibited and forbidden items are identified in baggage and on passengers. First thing to remember is that prohibited does not mean that it is not allowed, just that its carriage requires additional conditions. You should not go airport security before reaching the check in so generally it is not an issue. In high security airports then just declare that you are legally carrying firearms and ammunition and have your legal paperwork ready. You can also ask for items found at security to go into secure baggage as well. For example I was carrying a laser sight in by hand baggage (many years before the high intensity lasers came out). The security declared it as an offensive weapon and said that it would be confiscated. They were very surprised when I said that although they had the right to declare it an offensive weapon they had no right to confiscate it and I wanted it to be sent to the cabin crew as secure baggage. One of the security staff had to then come to the gate and hand it over to the cabin crew and it was given back to me as I got off the flight. The same as injected medication etc. It can be handy when you know the rules better than the staff!
So, contact the carrier and only the carrier and ask do they allow the carriage of sporting firearms (never use the term weapons) and ammunition and what are THEIR requirements. Declare at the time of booking the flight (phone up after booking online) and again at arrival at check in.
Having said all that, I’ve stood at baggage claim desk while they were frantically trying to find my ammo when the wife spotted it coming down the baggage carousel with everyone else’s bags.
As a non resident alien, can you even legally buy ammo in the US without a hunting license?
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No it doesn't seem you can, top link below:
https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/nonimmigrant-aliens
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No it doesn't seem you can, top link below:
https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/nonimmigrant-aliens
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not worth the hassle,I bought a leupold scope in the US,On returning to the UK I Had this in my hand luggage to prevent it being smashed /damaged by the baggage handlers,it was identified by the airport scanner and the TSA BORDER SECURITY said It was a firearm,after about 30 minutes of discussion and asking how this can fire a projectile , and how they catorgorise this as a weapon they allowed me to continue with my journey.
So bringing in live ammo,just not worth the hassle
So bringing in live ammo,just not worth the hassle
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