Another Blaser

[sharkey]

I really don't get all the emotion and vitriol that the mention of Blaser generates.

Maybe some folk are just "blaser curious"?
But not me of course.

Sharkey

 

[Orion]

Other manufacturers who have jumped on the straight pull bandwagon have kept a receiver in place thus taking away any potential advantage other than speed simplicity of movement of straightpull over turnbolt.

Don't forget the Merkel Helix with it's detachable bolt head that locks by rotating it's lugs directly into the barrel. The action body is there for the bolt, with it's 1:2 mechanical advantage, to travel in - not bear any pressure. And it's enclosed at the rear.

http://rx-helix.com/en/handling/handling-bbs-en

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At the end of the day and as someone mentioned on a previous blaser bashing thread, the turnbolt rifle is 19th century technology.. things can be bettered, things can be improved.

Agree with that, turnbolt technology from the 19th Century, Blaser straight pulls in the 20th, and the Merkel Helix firmly in the 21st.

 

[AndrewT059]

Anybody like to buy my remmy 700's , to much time ranting over rifles than getting out and enjoying them i think, enjoy what you got , each to there own, all the arguments isnt going to make any difference what so ever,

now im off to have a pop with the .243 at some targets in the rain,

 

[Vipa]

Don't forget the Merkel Helix with it's detachable bolt head that locks by rotating it's lugs directly into the barrel. The action body is there for the bolt, with it's 1:2 mechanical advantage, to travel in - not bear any pressure. And it's enclosed at the rear.

http://rx-helix.com/en/handling/handling-bbs-en

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Agree with that, turnbolt technology from the 19th Century, Blaser straight pulls in the 20th, and the Merkel Helix firmly in the 21st.

Fair comment lol... nice locking system there

 

[achosenman]

Something I've never really understood in all these discussions: conventional turn bolt action seems incredibly simple and functional. What is gained by having a straight pull that appears considerably more complicated?

I admit to having only handled a straight pull in a shop, but there doesn't really seem to be much difference in terms of speed of action or noisyness. They seem to work perfectly well and do the job they're designed to do - but seem to be unnecessarily complex in doing so.

Having had a Tikka in 243, 5 Sako's in 243x2, 6.5x55, 308 and 270 I got frustrated. Non shot worth a damn IMO. Yep suitable to knock a deer over broadside on but nothing precision. I had the 270 rebuilt by RG rifles and then Continental Shooting services. Both Krieger barrels. and it shot well. However it went south after 1500rds. The 23 inch barrel with mod made it very long and cumbersome. It drove me mad.


My observations so far.
I picked a brand new R8 Pro Success the other day in 270. The ATec Maxim mod and kickstop balance superbly. The whole thing including the mod with 23 inch barrel is shorter than my 23 inch barrel Stiller Tac 30 action 223. I zeroed it yesterday with some el cheapo Geco 140gn soft point. Final group after zero .168. Winchester Super X 130gn did .480. I had to work really hard to get close to the winny group with my custom stalking rifle. Never managed the first. Probably just lucky...maybe. However I'll take that kind of luck. I never had it with a Sako/Tikka out the box.

ATB

 

[9.3x64]

None of these arguments bother me. I have a Blaser R93 and am more than happy with it.
I do reload but then I have been doing so in various calibres for over sixty years so am aware of what to expect if complacent.
If I took everything posted on web sites as gospel, every time I pull the trigger I would have to close my eyes and hope nothing bad happens but luckily, or otherwise, so far nothing bad has happened, nor do I expect it to.

Yes me too.
The 1st photo below shows a SIX shot group recently out of my 7x64 R8 with factory ammunition. 3 different brands of factory ammunition!

The next three pics showed a wild dog hunt I was on just last week in western Queensland. As you can see from the pics it was really shitty conditions. It rained the day before we arrived and it was a total combination of mud and dry red dust. Both our R8 Professionals really copped a flogging as we tend to be a bit sell we say, "hard on them". We bought them to use not sit in the safe. They are bloody tough rifles and they were really knocked around and covered in mud and dirt.
At the end of the week we stripped them down in less then a minute in small bits, even remoing bolt heads etc.
Then just put them in the shower to get all the crap off them, then dried them in the sun, re oiled them and put them back in the safe.
You can't complain about that. Simple.
My brother and I both love our R8's.

On another note that last photo is of a sheep that kept coming into our camp over a two day period. It would not leave my German shorthaired pointer alone. It's lamb crawled under a tree and died because of the oppressive conditions. This mother spent the next two days trying to lure my dog away to adopt it. It was incredibly persistent.
Animals are incredible.
I hope you all do not mind me digressing and sharing.

 

[Hereford]

Don't forget the Merkel Helix with it's detachable bolt head that locks by rotating it's lugs directly into the barrel. The action body is there for the bolt, with it's 1:2 mechanical advantage, to travel in - not bear any pressure. And it's enclosed at the rear.

http://rx-helix.com/en/handling/handling-bbs-en

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Agree with that, turnbolt technology from the 19th Century, Blaser straight pulls in the 20th, and the Merkel Helix firmly in the 21st.

+1 - love my Helix and had a grand to spare over the Blaser to pick up a nice Hornet - Blaser is a bit like the old Beretta bandwagon isn't it? Let them get on with it and get it out their system