Anti's aim is well off

[finnbear270]

Saw something on telly last night that turned my guts,farmed prawns in the tanks , the females "have to " have their eyes ripped out, ... To initiate the egg / young production on the right scale for the farms, for sure I won't be leaning in the freezers unless I am assured it's wild caught stuff. Maybe the Anti's / Vegans should shift their aim?

 

[Foss]

I wasn't aware of this but it's yet another irony of life that obviously completely passes these people by.

 

[sonny2dap]

Saw something on telly last night that turned my guts,farmed prawns in the tanks , the females "have to " have their eyes ripped out, ... To initiate the egg / young production on the right scale for the farms, for sure I won't be leaning in the freezers unless I am assured it's wild caught stuff. Maybe the Anti's / Vegans should shift their aim?

Prawns are neither cute nor cuddly therefore are well off the anti's radar.

on the subject of that show how bizzare that the stress of captivity causes a hormone build up in the prawns eye stem and that affects fertility? not a nice practice but from the prawn farms perspective you can see the logic.

 

[Mungo]

No one cares until it has a back bone.

And even then, they only really start caring when it has fur or feathers.

 

[Mr. Gain]

I admit to not knowing much about fish farming, either as regards animal welfare or environmental impact, but until commercial fisheries stop stripping the seas of life and doing nothing to conserve stocks, that seems to me to be a bigger problem in a protein-hungry world.

I'm not saying the mutilation of live prawns isn't horrific, and it's certainly a more valid focus for concern than anything we get up to, but I'd focus on making sure any wild-caught seafood you eat comes from a sustainable fishery - this helps.

 

[pablo.222]

I admit to not knowing much about fish farming, either as regards animal welfare or environmental impact, but until commercial fisheries stop stripping the seas of life and doing nothing to conserve stocks, that seems to me to be a bigger problem in a protein-hungry world.

I'm not saying the mutilation of live prawns isn't horrific, and it's certainly a more valid focus for concern than anything we get up to, but I'd focus on making sure any wild-caught seafood you eat comes from a sustainable fishery - this helps.

Your a bit of the beating track there. If u take the north sea for example it has more fish in it now than in the last 30 years because there is no boats left to catch them. The problem comes that we let in spanish fleet too catch our fish from our waters. They catch what they want but our fisherman catch fish that they are not allowed too land in the market because the quota has been cut soo much. Soo all those fish they catch are thrown over the side bck into the sea dead. Such a waste of food because u cnt tell what your going too catch but u can only put 20 boxes of cod in the market but u just caught 50. The 30 boxes ectra are wasted.

Its all the rules coming from brussels and what you here on the news is utter ****. The fish in the north is easily sustainable. But what going too happens is our fishing boats from the uk will be pushed out of buissness because its not viable too fish anymore. Then it wiill all be left for the rest of europe t reep the benefits and they will i assure u leave nothing behind.

 

[Leon]

Your a bit of the beating track there. If u take the north sea for example it has more fish in it now than in the last 30 years because there is no boats left to catch them. The problem comes that we let in spanish fleet too catch our fish from our waters. They catch what they want but our fisherman catch fish that they are not allowed too land in the market because the quota has been cut soo much. Soo all those fish they catch are thrown over the side bck into the sea dead. Such a waste of food because u cnt tell what your going too catch but u can only put 20 boxes of cod in the market but u just caught 50. The 30 boxes ectra are wasted.

Its all the rules coming from brussels and what you here on the news is utter ****. The fish in the north is easily sustainable. But what going too happens is our fishing boats from the uk will be pushed out of buissness because its not viable too fish anymore. Then it wiill all be left for the rest of europe t reep the benefits and they will i assure u leave nothing behind.

The boats are going out a couple of hundred miles to not catch cod, yet we are told there are no cod left.... and dont get me started on the pulse trawlers....

 

[Mr. Gain]

Pablo,

as far as I know there's there's no underlying reason why managed fisheries shouldn't be sustainable, but unless some alternative to the kind of competitive extraction you mention is established, it won't matter who has the boats, as there'll be nothing to catch.

A fishery that is overexploited and then crashes, putting the fishermen out of business until stocks recover and it gets overfished again, is hardly "sustainable".

If a farmer treated his land the way the fishing industry treats the seas it would cease being productive very quickly. But farmers have a long term relationship with their farms, take responsibility for them, and are subject a high degree of scrutiny. I doubt whether the same can be said of the majority of large-scale fishing concerns.

 

[pablo.222]

The boats are going out a couple of hundred miles to not catch cod, yet we are told there are no cod left.... and dont get me started on the pulse trawlers....

​Whats wrong with the purse trawlers??

 

[eggy s]

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[bewsher500]

Your a bit of the beating track there. If u take the north sea for example it has more fish in it now than in the last 30 years because there is no boats left to catch them.

Really? 30 years? all fish? or just the pelagic ones that collapsed?
based on what? EU fisheries surveys?

wouldn't be betting my house on anything produced in the name of fisheries quotas or politicians needs!

 

[craigievarkiller]

Guys ... most stocks in the N.E Atlantic are now being harvested within safe limits. Those limits are prescribed by ICES (International Council Exploration of the Sea). Go on to the ICES website (www.ICES.DK) and you will see detailed information for all species within the north sea.
Hugh Fernley-Whittingstall and his severely misguided 'Fish Fight' programme was so factually incorrect. All it did was poison the minds of the majority of the general public who don't know any better when it comes to fisheries and fisheries science.
North sea cod stocks are now in a healthier position that they have been for at least 20 years. The majority of the Scottish fleet now spend the bulk of their time trying to avoid cod as quotas have not yet risen to come in line with the available biomass on the grounds.
ATB

CVK

 

[J222ROE]

Hugh Fernley-Whittingstall and his severely misguided 'Fish Fight' programme was so factually incorrect. All it did was poison the minds of the majority of the general public who don't know any better when it comes to fisheries and fisheries science.
North sea cod stocks are now in a healthier position that they have been for at least 20 years. Well said cvk... i have been at the job for 16 years and when i started cod in the north sea were low but if u look at it now there is more cod than the fishing fleet, what is left of the fleet can catch . and now the prawn industry is suffering ! it happened in canada years ago and the same thing has happened here the only way to keep prices up and stocks from both industrys up is to let fishermen catch what they want but on retircted time at sea . thats my veiw !!

 

[Brithunter]

It's the Muppets who dreamed up the quota rules that need sorting out. How can tipping tons of dead fish over the side be saving the stocks?

If they instead landed them for market there would be more fish left as a bost/ship cn only carry so much and once full it's full but tip most over the side and it has to catch more and kill more to fill the hold.