Any tips to stop clays shattering?

muddy42

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See picture, I have a really budget £40 clay pigeon trap. Its fine for beginner shooters, but it annoys me that a high proportion of the clays shatter on ejection. This annoys me because the clays are travelling at a snails pace.

Any tips to stop this? Tape on the retaining clip? Lubrication?

Any help appreciated.
 

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Apologies for saying so but it looks like a pretty cheap piece of kit & as such I wonder how much proper engineering has been put into the design & manufacture?

What material is on the arm where the clay spins up? What is the other side of the two dome heads at the end of the arm? Are there any rough or sharp edges where the ‘trigger’ lever is?

Got any more pics of the other side of the arm?
 
There may be a impact between the arm of the trap and the clay as it launches? Rather than the arm and the clay being together as it were. How to explain? Think the difference between wearing an old style non-inertia seatbelt buckled tight and fitting loose.

Or the clay hitting part of the trap as it launches. Might I suggest fitting a clay and then slowly by hand rolling it along the full length of the arm of the uncocked trap and sensing and snag or stop as you do? Both from bottom to top and back again from top to bottom?

Meanwhile I've a handflinger that you can have for the cost of the postage if you are desperate? Like this but green.

 
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Interesting. I've got a clay thrower that looks basically like a golf club, except for the end bit of course. Never used it though. Must have a go.
 
I had a single clay trap like that one. If you didn’t push the clay all the way up the arm so it touches the bolt when loading it, they would shatter every time. The clay would travel along the slide when fired hit the bolt and break on the way out.
 
Mine ended up in the metal skip at the recycling centre, the plastic handheld went into the general waste compressor 😂

Now I pay Bisley to launch them and they also serve coffee and bacon rolls 👌
 
Check all the rubbers along the throwing arm. If it's old, then replace them as they perish over time and use. It doesn't take a lot for the shock of release to break the clay if the rubber isn't absorbing it.
Make sure the clay is the right size for the trap you're using. Also old clays can dry out and become brittle, or become excessively damp.
Check the arm itself hasn't been bent through misuse.
Check all bolts are clear of the arms movement.
Make sure no previously bits of broken clay are affecting the movement of the throwing arm.
 
When I was a lad I worked as a ‘trapper’ for a local clay club. None of this electronic nonsense, this was all man powered kit and we had a range of traps from home made to purpose built.
The cheaper purpose built ones often broke clays on launching because the clays weren’t held in long enough by a sprung clip, so they rattled down the arm and broke on exit.
To fix this on the fly we would put our fingers on the top of each clay and quickly remove just as we released the arm - no fingers were lost!! (Although one chap did mess around once and he loaded a hotdog into the arm of the trap, pretending it was his old fella, and when the guy shouted ‘pull’ he fired off a clay and the sausage and let out a small scream of pain but not before the shooter had let fly with both barrels, destroying both the clay and his fake knob/sausage!)

On your trap, it also looks like it’s triggered by stepping onto a plate - this will likely cause the trap to move at the point of firing unless it’s well weighted down, so maybe smear some grease onto the rubbers or make them thicker and whack a couple of sandbags onto the frame to help stabilise it when you trigger the release.
 
Any recommendations for decent clays then?
The clays at my club are well hard - I can't seem to break many of them :-|

Seriously, I did see a 'Tube video where they (Josh Brown) said there are hard clay targets (that break into pieces) and softer clay targets (that turn into dust) due to different manufacturers' recipes.
 
Apologies for saying so but it looks like a pretty cheap piece of kit & as such I wonder how much proper engineering has been put into the design & manufacture?

What material is on the arm where the clay spins up? What is the other side of the two dome heads at the end of the arm? Are there any rough or sharp edges where the ‘trigger’ lever is?

Got any more pics of the other side of the arm?
Yes I bought cheap with my eyes open, thinking I would have been able to get it to work without shattering clays. Its not like its sending them particularly fast, which I would have thought was a contributor to stressing the clays.

The arm is all metal with only a small piece of rubber. I'll try and add more rubber.

Being stored in damp condition hi humidity is detrimental to clay’s temperature can also effect the consistency as clays have a bitumen content.
clays are new

I had a single clay trap like that one. If you didn’t push the clay all the way up the arm so it touches the bolt when loading it, they would shatter every time. The clay would travel along the slide when fired hit the bolt and break on the way out.
I'll try this
Check all the rubbers along the throwing arm. If it's old, then replace them as they perish over time and use. It doesn't take a lot for the shock of release to break the clay if the rubber isn't absorbing it.
Make sure the clay is the right size for the trap you're using. Also old clays can dry out and become brittle, or become excessively damp.
Check the arm itself hasn't been bent through misuse.
Check all bolts are clear of the arms movement.
Make sure no previously bits of broken clay are affecting the movement of the throwing arm.
Thanks, I'll check all of these factors.

Thanks for the help everyone.
 
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