Are moderators ever a requirement
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devon deer stalker
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The original question was two fold.
I agree with the comments regarding damage to hearing, the bulk of my clients i take out have their own rifles, although not all moderated.
Prior to taking them out, should an accuracy test be required, i offer them the use my my ear defenders, and when i check zero on my own rifle i always use ear protection.
When i used to carry out a lot of fox control (rarely do it these days unless my farmers have a problem) i would use ear protection, but i will admit to not always wearing it when doing my own deer cull.
However i do when pheasant shooting.
So there are alternatives to moderators, but circumstances might require them to be used.
The 2nd part of your question has been answered.
Regarding Browning, when i purchased my Browning it came at no extra cost to get it screw cut, from The Exeter Gun and Sport Shop, not the nearby gunshop i have access to in Exeter, why? because the Exeter Gun Sport shop gave me personal service and beat the competitor's price, but that is going off subject slightly.
Cheers
Richard
I agree with the comments regarding damage to hearing, the bulk of my clients i take out have their own rifles, although not all moderated.
Prior to taking them out, should an accuracy test be required, i offer them the use my my ear defenders, and when i check zero on my own rifle i always use ear protection.
When i used to carry out a lot of fox control (rarely do it these days unless my farmers have a problem) i would use ear protection, but i will admit to not always wearing it when doing my own deer cull.
However i do when pheasant shooting.
So there are alternatives to moderators, but circumstances might require them to be used.
The 2nd part of your question has been answered.
Regarding Browning, when i purchased my Browning it came at no extra cost to get it screw cut, from The Exeter Gun and Sport Shop, not the nearby gunshop i have access to in Exeter, why? because the Exeter Gun Sport shop gave me personal service and beat the competitor's price, but that is going off subject slightly.
Cheers
Richard
Hornet 6
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I shall go ahead and save the extra £130 (yes, it is a bit steep when my RFD would do it for about £80) and get it factory threaded ready to go, that way I always have the option and don't have to worry about getting it done later and losing the warranty - cheers folks
Factory threaded X-Bolt is extra £££££
My x-bolt in .223 was threaded as standard at the normal price.
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If they charged extra for it I wouldn't have bought it (had I seen it before taking it home).
Getting it sorted out was either an exchange the rifle deal with all the paperwork for a 1 for 1, or pay to have it fixed, I paid.
Look very closely at your new rifle before it goes on your ticket, this is not the only one I have seen like it.
Neil.
adjman
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Factory threaded X-Bolt is extra £££££
My x-bolt in .223 was threaded as standard at the normal price.
If they charged extra for it I wouldn't have bought it (had I seen it before taking it home).
Getting it sorted out was either an exchange the rifle deal with all the paperwork for a 1 for 1, or pay to have it fixed, I paid.
Look very closely at your new rifle before it goes on your ticket, this is not the only one I have seen like it.
Neil.
Thanks for the warning, I am wondering if it is worth getting the non-threaded version and paying my RFD to thread it for me and warranty be b*ggered? I trust me RFD as he is an old family friend and wouldn't rip me off for the sake of it - however he may be being fed a line by Browning of course
adjman
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My RFD confirmed he generally carries 7mm-08 in stock when I was asking about the rifle, not sure what the prices are though - I can find out and let you know.
Yes, if the rifle is threaded post-delivery then it will need to be re-proved but, as I understand it, that is part of the £80 cost of threading the rifle for a mod
Hornet 6
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Thanks for the warning, I am wondering if it is worth getting the non-threaded version and paying my RFD to thread it for me and warranty be b*ggered? I trust me RFD as he is an old family friend and wouldn't rip me off for the sake of it - however he may be being fed a line by Browning of course
I fail to see how Browning could justify refusing a warranty claim because it was threaded after the sale.
I would buy it unthreaded and test shoot it as is, once you are happy that it functions as it should, and that accuracy is ok have it threaded.
Chances are one threaded and crowned properly accuracy will improve anyway, mine certainly did.
Should a fault arrise later (other than an accuracy one) I would expect them to correct it, after all if a magazine fails it could not be blamed on a moderator thread.
Neil.
I have moderators on both my rifles and would not be without them. No bulky or expensive electronic ear defenders and the ability to sense direction of sound. However, I always check the zero of my rifles with and without moderator, in order to be able to shoot abroad, where moderators are illegal. I have a sight that has a dial in facility to change the point of zero for different round. This works with removing the moderator, which also changes the point of zero.
bobthedug
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I suppose the best thing to do is lash out the extra £130 on the rifle to have it threaded (Browning insist on them doing it, if you have it done after purchase it invalidates their warranty) and then if I need a moderator I can get one later. I was just looking at saving the £130 to go towards glass, but I think it makes sense to get the rifle in threaded format right from the off, then I always have the choice.
I take the point about hearing (eh? what?)
Thanks very much for the input and opinions folks, very much appreciated as always
I recently bought a new Browning A bolt and the other rifle I was looking at was the X bolt.
Both were threaded at no extra cost.
Bob
Sinistral
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I honestly don't think is so. As ever, the rules are buried in a series of linked FC publications which I've pored over. None of these confirm your claim.
If you can point to some other relevant document, please post the link
. The trail starts below:-
http://www.forestry.gov.uk/pdf/ogb5.pdf/$FILE/ogb5.pdf
Well my hearing is U/S after too much pigeon shooting without ear protectors.
I do find that a moddy spoils the lines and balance of a rifle, however accuracy is enhanced when they are fitted and I could not stalk/fox shoot wearing ear protection.
I would advise considerable thought and selection of a suitable moddy its going to cost £200+ so sound the site members out first and then have a look at some before you buy. ASE/Roedale should be high on your list.
D
I do find that a moddy spoils the lines and balance of a rifle, however accuracy is enhanced when they are fitted and I could not stalk/fox shoot wearing ear protection.
I would advise considerable thought and selection of a suitable moddy its going to cost £200+ so sound the site members out first and then have a look at some before you buy. ASE/Roedale should be high on your list.
D
Cheers for the recommendation, I will probably look into a titanium one so the balance of the rifle isn't upset too much - only issue there is they are around £500 odd
Out of interest bobthedug, how much was the X-Bolt going for?
Please do yourself a favour and don't be sucked in by the titanium moderator marketing machine. An Atec Maxim is the same weight, half the price, and i promise you won't notice the difference.
Claret_Dabbler
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Forget £500 moderators.
Go with a Roedale Delta or a CNM4, both at around 200 -220 grammes, you would hardly know you are using one.
There is no way I would pay and extra £130 for a rifle to come threaded, nearly all manufacturers supply UK rifles threaded as standard.
7/08 is an excellent choice, but take a good look around before you drop cash on a new Browning. S/H Sako's and semi customs turn up all the time in this calibre, you might pick up a bargain. Also, as above, be sure you can feed it.
Go with a Roedale Delta or a CNM4, both at around 200 -220 grammes, you would hardly know you are using one.
There is no way I would pay and extra £130 for a rifle to come threaded, nearly all manufacturers supply UK rifles threaded as standard.
7/08 is an excellent choice, but take a good look around before you drop cash on a new Browning. S/H Sako's and semi customs turn up all the time in this calibre, you might pick up a bargain. Also, as above, be sure you can feed it.
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