BASC AGM 2022 and new BASC Film

[Conor O'Gorman]

BASC Council members are democratically elected from, and by, BASC members. Council is the board and strategic decision-making fulcrum of BASC. It is charged with setting strategy and policy, while operational execution is delegated to the chief executive. Ultimate responsibility for the direction and sound running of the association resides with Council.

Two new BASC Council members were elected during the Association’s AGM earlier today, 21 May 2022, with four Honorary Life Memberships awarded also.

BASC AGM 2022 report:

BASC AGM report

The BASC AGM 2022 saw the election of two new Council members and the awarding of four Honorary Life Memberships.

basc.org.uk

New BASC film:

 

[kes]

BASC is more than just an organisation, we are a community, a tribe, a family - together we are BASC, and together we are stronger.

I think the myth has been destroyed recently. I am amazed that BASC continue to seek to justify itself in such a dated and even abhorrent manner.
If this post is deleted I will no longer post on here so please remove my membership to save me the trouble.
If SD accepts this tripe from BASC I want nothing more to do with it.
Goodbye all. Connor will be happy at least.

 

[Tim.243]

BASC is more than just an organisation, we are a community, a tribe, a family - together we are BASC, and together we are stronger.

I think the myth has been destroyed recently. I am amazed that BASC continue to seek to justify itself in such a dated and even abhorrent manner.
If this post is deleted I will no longer post on here so please remove my membership to save me the trouble.
If SD accepts this tripe from BASC I want nothing more to do with it.
Goodbye all. Connor will be happy at least.

 

[timbrayford]

BASC were extremely helpful with my attempts to stop the unnecessary persecution of wild deer by the public authorities on the Isle of Wight!

 

[Mike L]

If SD accepts this tripe from BASC I want nothing more to do with it.
Goodbye all. Connor will be happy at least.

You won't leave as you enjoy the free platform to bitch and moan about BASC too much, you might use another name like @triton but you won't go............you cant.

 

[Woodsmoke]

you won't go............you cant.

Have you mis-spelled that?

 

[Reloader708]

Well I watched that with an open mind but I was quite surprised just how low the statistical numbers were!
Just a real quick look (happy for someone to correct me here)
.80 mps met last year out of 650, we need
permanent pressure on our leaders.
.7680 licence inquiries, out of 160,000 firearm
certificate holders and 560,000 shotgun. Not
Including Scotland.
.website viewed 3 million times in a year, the daily mail had 133 million views in April this year.
.25,000 young people attending some form of event, we have 13.5 million people under 18 in the uk.

 

[Whitefront]

And the stats for other orgs?

 

[kes]

You won't leave as you enjoy the free platform to bitch and moan about BASC too much, you might use another name like @triton but you won't go............you cant.

I dont like the organisation because it has sold shooting down the river and yet continues to attempt to remain " The Voice of Shooting".
It treats shooters like advertising fodder and has no shame - nothing to do with me.
However, people like you making idiotic comments based on nothing more than a prejudiced view will see me leave but not when you choose.

 

[Mike L]

Like I said.

 

[Robs]

All are thankfully able to voice their opinion in this country. I feel let down by the BASC and other orgs. with regard to the lead issue. Several days ago I received the usual CA newsletter. No surprise to me it read as if they are proud of their stance on lead and everyone else is of no relevance. To think I along with 00,000s attended the Liberty and Livelihood marches which were to support hunting. It now makes me feel quite sick to think we are nothing but an income stream.

 

[countrryboy]

And the stats for other orgs?

But comparing the other orgs who may not even have any FT staff is hardly a fair comparison.

If basc members/employees can honestly look at basc and wot it achieves with all its staff, resources and finance and think its is doing a good job compared to other orgs with no staff or a coupe of phone answerers .
Most other orgs rely on voulanters even at senior levels not paying decent wages

Basc have the potential to be doing so so much more and really should be, have basc 100 staff yet??
Do u think its acceptable to only just be out performing orgs with 0/1/2 staff and abasic office??

I left after the lead betrayal but even that they handled it shockingly, so no longer really care about basc, but i do think they're members should be holding them to account

 

[T.eddie]

I think many need to either reach out to the orgs they are members of, or join basc so they can moan legitimately
It's like someone moaning about the government when they never voted in the first place

 

[Conor O'Gorman]

@countrryboy I understand your perspective and respect your reasons for leaving BASC.

BASC's 143 paid staff help members on the phone, by email and face to face at shows and events and work on a diversity of operational, political and policy issues day by day and week by week across the UK and beyond.

For example, we have been working with an African delegation visiting London next week where they will be explaining the benefits of well-regulated hunting in Africa to conservation and local people.

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[Robs]

At this time would it not be more important to divert all available resources to the potential lead ban. The totality of the ban is political and therefore a clear and imminent danger to the whole shooting arena. Just saying

 

[kes]

I think many need to either reach out to the orgs they are members of, or join basc so they can moan legitimately
It's like someone moaning about the government when they never voted in the first place

I agree but I have been a member of BASC for a number of years, as a part - time, working keeper.
So perhaps your point is not well made. How long does it take after all that has happened over many years to realise £80 wasted is not what shooting needs but an Org which does what it says for shooting rather than contrary to its best interests , AS A WHOLE. 143 staff members mean nothing unless the effort is focussed where the problems are - unless that is you choose to build an empire ?

 

[T.eddie]

I agree but I have been a member of BASC for a number of years, as a part - time, working keeper.
So perhaps your point is not well made. How long does it take after all that has happened over many years to realise £80 wasted is not what shooting needs but an Org which does what it says for shooting rather than contrary to its best interests , AS A WHOLE. 143 staff members mean nothing unless the effort is focussed where the problems are - unless that is you choose to build an empire ?

143 staff isnt a lot in the grand scheme of things and there have been numerous threads on here with people saying BASC cant take on the government for things and others where there is the opposite saying they have caused damage to the governments mind of shooting (not sure how you can have it both ways). Im not saying they are perfect, however if not happy with them, go to another org or if a member speak to them, voice concerns/answer the surveys and call for evidence. If unhappy with the leadership in BASC, then as called out in the original post they are voted by BASC members. If a member didnt vote and is unhappy with the leadership then again its mute point.

As an example yesterday at a fair near where I live BASC were there I cant say I noticed any other orgs

 

[Mike L]

Well, SD has accepted the post as its still up, so……………………………. Goodbye and thanks for all the fish

 

[Tim.243]

143 staff isnt a lot in the grand scheme of things and there have been numerous threads on here with people saying BASC cant take on the government for things and others where there is the opposite saying they have caused damage to the governments mind of shooting (not sure how you can have it both ways). Im not saying they are perfect, however if not happy with them, go to another org or if a member speak to them, voice concerns/answer the surveys and call for evidence. If unhappy with the leadership in BASC, then as called out in the original post they are voted by BASC members. If a member didnt vote and is unhappy with the leadership then again its mute point.

As an example yesterday at a fair near where I live BASC were there I cant say I noticed any other orgs

You would have missed the posts when Kes was going to be a council member in BASC backed in spirt by Carl W

Well that never happened Tom, also the wager I had with a member was paid direct to Air ambulance when Kes gave
up, had he not then BASC would have received the money from myself.

 

[kes]

143 staff isnt a lot in the grand scheme of things and there have been numerous threads on here with people saying BASC cant take on the government for things and others where there is the opposite saying they have caused damage to the governments mind of shooting (not sure how you can have it both ways). Im not saying they are perfect, however if not happy with them, go to another org or if a member speak to them, voice concerns/answer the surveys and call for evidence. If unhappy with the leadership in BASC, then as called out in the original post they are voted by BASC members. If a member didnt vote and is unhappy with the leadership then again its mute point.

As an example yesterday at a fair near where I live BASC were there I cant say I noticed any other orgs

T. As another aside I went today to a local gunshop to buy .308 copper. They cost £44 for 20 (Winchester 150 g) and the advice I was given was "copper deposits very heavily in the barrel by comparison with lead and needs cleaning regularly" - something I don't normally have to do.
They advised that shooting lead and then copper will change POI for each change - so really its one or the other and regular cleaning. In joking I said - well at least you didn't try to sell me membership of a shooting organisation. I was advised that the guy who helped me thought all were rubbish and pursuing their own agendas but not concerned about shooting ( and stalking particularly ) in general.
Not my opinion someone else's.
Maybe they should all go on TRUSTPILOT - I wouldnt like to see the ratings.
Many BASC members are shoots, DIY or commercial, who feel obliged to renew but don't look too hard at performance but are content to believe they are doing a good thing for shooting (generally).
My view is contrary and I haven't even mentioned the wildfowling 'closed shop'.
However, you pays your money and takes your choice - all I am advocating is a long hard look to see if the membership fee is worth what you get. I was a member of NGA and they are much better than some, SACS has been recommended and I tried to get the shoot to transfer from BASC.
Insurance can, of course. be had anywhere for pennies by comparison.