Blaser, love them or hate them?
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timbrayford
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I got my R93 quite unintentionally really. I went over to Gregor MacLeod's in Tain one day with a group of lads off the site who were up here stalking not intending to buy anything, just along for the ride. While I was there and talking to Gregor I enquired as to whether he had any second hand S&B 6X42, got one downstairs he said its on a rifle, off he went to get it and was going to take it off when I stopped him and said I would take a look through it first. So I shouldered the gun and not only was the glass crystal clear, as I knew it would be, but the rifle felt really good and fitted me fine, so I bought it. Since then I have acquired two more barrels for it and it has been responsible for a lot of venison coming home and to the dealers. It has had a hard time with me, the inserts on the stock having been stuck back several times, and are in need of it again at this moment in time.
I have never considered it anything but a working tool the way it gets stuffed into the rifle rack on my quad would I'm sure make some purists weep. When lamping I find it very easy, and reassuring, that the cocking / de-cocking system makes it what I consider to be completely safe. I like that when it gets wet I can just whip the barrel off and give it a thorough drying and when it is time to reassemble it is as accurate as it was when last used. Now I know they are considered expensive, but so are S&B, Zeiss etc. and nobody seems to care much when somebody buys an expensive scope, so why all this bother with a Blaser?
I don't really care what the detractors say, for me it works is hassle free, robust and accurate and I can't at this moment in time see myself changing manufacturers.
John
I have never considered it anything but a working tool the way it gets stuffed into the rifle rack on my quad would I'm sure make some purists weep. When lamping I find it very easy, and reassuring, that the cocking / de-cocking system makes it what I consider to be completely safe. I like that when it gets wet I can just whip the barrel off and give it a thorough drying and when it is time to reassemble it is as accurate as it was when last used. Now I know they are considered expensive, but so are S&B, Zeiss etc. and nobody seems to care much when somebody buys an expensive scope, so why all this bother with a Blaser?
I don't really care what the detractors say, for me it works is hassle free, robust and accurate and I can't at this moment in time see myself changing manufacturers.
John
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Simjim33
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I can echo that. Never really cared to much for them until I got to Handel a couple. I will be picking a nice second hand one up soon!
Vipa
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Vipa
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Glad you are enjoying it
Dont worry... I'm saving my pennies... it wont be long (I hope!) 
Thar
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Vipa
Try actually reading my posts even if you don’t like the content.
1 Accident near Münster with a Blaser rifle model R93 caliber 6,5x68
1 Accident near Koblenz recently with a Blaser rifle R93 caliber .300 Weatherby
1 Accident in Africa with a Blaser rifle model R93 caliber .416 Rem Mag, that then was stolen
2 Accidents near Nantes, one with a Blaser R93 caliber .375 H&H and another with a .300 Winchester Magnum
1 Accident near Paris with a Blaser R93 caliber .375 H&H
1 Accident in Austria
I wouldn’t call myself a Blaser hater, but when I look at other rifles they look so much better engineered, look at other straight pull designs the Heym SR30, it is so well engineered with it’s ring of locking bearings, the Lynx with it’s toggle action and steel cross bar locking it shut, reassuring, even the Browning straight pull uses a rotary bolt, all well engineered and simple designs. The Blaser is too complicated to my eye, a success of marketing sure. The one good point of the Blaser is the trigger being under the magazine which allows for a short overall length but at the expense of magazine capacity.
I have to note that some of you Blaser guys do loose it when you toys get criticized, and you tell me to get a life,
it a piece of plastic/alloy/steel FFS. 
I wonder how many bags of pop-corn the OP has got though watching this up to now.
ATB
Tahr
Vipa
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Vipa
Try actually reading my posts even if you don’t like the content.
1 Accident near Münster with a Blaser rifle model R93 caliber 6,5x68
1 Accident near Koblenz recently with a Blaser rifle R93 caliber .300 Weatherby
1 Accident in Africa with a Blaser rifle model R93 caliber .416 Rem Mag, that then was stolen
2 Accidents near Nantes, one with a Blaser R93 caliber .375 H&H and another with a .300 Winchester Magnum
1 Accident near Paris with a Blaser R93 caliber .375 H&H
1 Accident in Austria
I wouldn’t call myself a Blaser hater, but when I look at other rifles they look so much better engineered, look at other straight pull designs the Heym SR30, it is so well engineered with it’s ring of locking bearings, the Lynx with it’s toggle action and steel cross bar locking it shut, reassuring, even the Browning straight pull uses a rotary bolt, all well engineered and simple designs. The Blaser is too complicated to my eye, a success of marketing sure. The one good point of the Blaser is the trigger being under the magazine which allows for a short overall length but at the expense of magazine capacity.
I have to note that some of you Blaser guys do loose it when you toys get criticized, and you tell me to get a life,
I wonder how many bags of pop-corn the OP has got though watching this up to now.
ATB
Tahr
And you read mine Thar... one CATASTAOPHIC failure.. accident near Munster? did he fall and bang his head.. there is nothing you have copied and pasted that gives any details... perhaps you could enlighten us.. while you are at it dig some stuff up on other manufacturers failures would you...
Hornet 6
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don't you think it's about time you got a grip and let it go?
While you lot keep biting the troll keeps trolling
Neil.
While you lot keep biting the troll keeps trolling
Neil.
Reading the thread you'd have to question who's casting the fly and who's taking it
Actually in deference to fishing - an honourable pastime that shouldn't be sullied by all these disreputable comments - I think I'll use this image instead:
Some people just can't stop picking can they
willie_gunn
Thar
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My God Thar... I have just stumbled accross exactly the same photos and drivel posted by you back in 2007..... and got exactly the same responses from the forum...... don't you think it's about time you got a grip and let it go?
Tell the guy who lost half his head the report is drivel! Do you have no empathy?
Seeing the accidents are in a report on the failure of Blaser rifles I think it is safe to assume in that context of that any accident would be due to one and the same not because the lads slipped over and grazed his knee, if you couldn’t work that out no wonder you got conned into buying a Balser.
You trawled all the way back to 2007, how sad, the fact I raised it again is due to that there is always new recruits joining the site and more importantly it is directly relevant to the title of the thread. It was just as important then to high light as it is now.
As for the Blaser in use by the Military a quick search revels that the one large nation using them (Australia) have been reporting issues with them.
To conclude I dislike and use the word dislike not hate Blasers because IMO.
If you have a model before Blaser modified them (although Blaser swear there was nothing wrong with the old model ) and it “lets go you lose half your head” where in most cases a conventional turn bolt will let go at the chamber and you might loss a finger or two.
The design is over complicated compared to other manufactures whose product does the same job.
The magazine capacity is limited; on at least on a R93 it is not detachable.
They are overpriced compared to other makes. Nearly £400 for the mounts, to respond to your old post yes they did used to give Opti-locks away with the rifle back in the 80s, it was only when the UK importer started taking them off and charging extra for them did that change. (rip off Britain)
I do admit that because the trigger is located under the magazine this gives a compact rifle which is desirable, also the designers must be complemented on doing this and keeping a good trigger, they also seem to be accurate no doubt due to the use of good barrels.
If you use Blaser, and like it its your money spend as you wish although I kind of think that the extra money spent might be better invested in wine women and song.
People new to stalking can make up their own mind if they want to buy one or not with views on the product from both sides.ATB
Tahr
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Tahr
I think you missed the letters "IMHO" out from your last post
In the same way as you appear to have taken on the role of warning potential Blaser owners of the error of their ways, I feel it is my role - nay, duty - to warn Sako owners that they too are at risk:
Helsingin Sanomat - International Edition - Consumer
Now despite the fact that there are hundreds of happy and contented owners of Sako and Tikka rifles out there - many indeed on this site (you may even know one or two) - I am sure you will agree that it is our public duty to warn people who might be new to stalking about these accidents so that they can make up their own mind if they want to buy one or not.
Mind you, Sako do market their rifles well......
willie_gunn
I think you missed the letters "IMHO" out from your last post
In the same way as you appear to have taken on the role of warning potential Blaser owners of the error of their ways, I feel it is my role - nay, duty - to warn Sako owners that they too are at risk:
Helsingin Sanomat - International Edition - Consumer
Now despite the fact that there are hundreds of happy and contented owners of Sako and Tikka rifles out there - many indeed on this site (you may even know one or two
) - I am sure you will agree that it is our public duty to warn people who might be new to stalking about these accidents so that they can make up their own mind if they want to buy one or not.Mind you, Sako do market their rifles well......
willie_gunn
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Vipa
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Tell the guy who lost half his head the report is drivel! Do you have no empathy?
Seeing the accidents are in a report on the failure of Blaser rifles I think it is safe to assume in that context of that any accident would be due to one and the same not because the lads slipped over and grazed his knee, if you couldn’t work that out no wonder you got conned into buying a Balser.
You trawled all the way back to 2007, how sad, the fact I raised it again is due to that there is always new recruits joining the site and more importantly it is directly relevant to the title of the thread. It was just as important then to high light as it is now.
As for the Blaser in use by the Military a quick search revels that the one large nation using them (Australia) have been reporting issues with them.
To conclude I dislike and use the word dislike not hate Blasers because IMO.
If you have a model before Blaser modified them (although Blaser swear there was nothing wrong with the old model ) and it “lets go you lose half your head” where in most cases a conventional turn bolt will let go at the chamber and you might loss a finger or two.
The design is over complicated compared to other manufactures whose product does the same job.
The magazine capacity is limited; on at least on a R93 it is not detachable.
They are overpriced compared to other makes. Nearly £400 for the mounts, to respond to your old post yes they did used to give Opti-locks away with the rifle back in the 80s, it was only when the UK importer started taking them off and charging extra for them did that change. (rip off Britain)
I do admit that because the trigger is located under the magazine this gives a compact rifle which is desirable, also the designers must be complemented on doing this and keeping a good trigger, they also seem to be accurate no doubt due to the use of good barrels.
If you use Blaser, and like it its your money spend as you wish although I kind of think that the extra money spent might be better invested in wine women and song.
ATB
Tahr
You keep on stating the inherent issues of the Blaser and that it 'will take your head off unlike other firearms' I would suggest you are treading on very, very dodgy ground making statements like that with no evidence to back up your claims.. you do not say that 'allegedly' this might happen or that 'in one instance the results were catastophi BUT it is alleged that was down to a reloading error' no.. you insist on putting pictures up and stating things catagorically, as if you had the court outcome in front of you.
Your posts made me, a Blaser admirer and owner start to doubt myself and spend time looking for the evidence of the cleims you are making.. I could find none other than posts by other 'concerned' individuals like yourself, nothing official from any government agency or court.. The only thing I could find to coroborate your Aus military claims was a post by someone who had been talking to an armorour who had said they were having headspace problems with the TAC2.. not because of the weapon but because of the tools the govt DIDNT buy when they bought the weapon system.. so.. hearsay.. could have been his aunties brothers sisters best friends teachers driving instructors dog that told him i suppose... gotta be true then! I can't even find the official findings of the ONE well known incident you obviously keep as your desktop wallpaper!
It was whilst looking for details/evidence to back up what you were stating as absolutely correct (on a busy and well read forum) that I stumbled upon your early post..
Are you not concerned? Your posts have made me, a Blaser owner and afficionado, doubt the system, my beliefs, my desires, my safety to the point of potentially losing my life by using a Blaser... if they can do that to me... just think what your posts could do to a potential buyer.. chances are it would put them off buying... I wonder how much business Blaser have lost in the UK simply because you have put posts up as you have? I don't have any issues with friendly banter, I don't mind being poked fun at for pretty much anything (including my choice of firearm) and trust me.. as a 47 year old company director and financial adviser of 20 years standing, when you go back to college in your spare time to study hairdressing, you need very thick skin and a damned good sense of humour.. but honestly Thar.. I think you are playing with Napalm here, not just fire..
I would however be genuinely interested in any evidence to back up the various alleged issues you keep finding and citing.. if that exists then it is useful information we could all use, otherwise it is just trolling
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If not, drop me a PM and I can send it to you.
An inspiring biography of an amazing man.
Made me realise that when someone calls you a "hairdresser" it should actually be taken as a compliment, not an insult.
willie_gunn
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