Blaser Saddle Mount vs Saddle Mount with Rings

[KB1]

Question on these. Is there any benefit to having the rings vs the standard saddle mounts. Do the rings allow you to position / slide the scope to your requirements or can you do this the standard mounts as well.

Thanks

 

[Shootgun]

Are you talking about rail vs rings?

 

[secondtry]

Rail will let a Zeiss Victory go further forward than rings. Genuine Blaser in both cases.

 

[Markfox]

If it's rail vs rings it's rail every time out of the rail options I'd choose Swarovski as the scope sits on teeth so it's impossible for it to move anywhere compared to the others

 

[KB1]

Apologies, I mean the Blaser Saddle Mount vs the Blaser Saddle Mount with Rings. I assume the Blaser Saddle mount does not require rings. If so, the benefits of having the additional Blaser rings is just for the benefit of sliding the scope to desired position ?

 

[Shootgun]

Apologies, I mean the Blaser Saddle Mount vs the Blaser Saddle Mount with Rings. I assume the Blaser Saddle mount does not require rings.

The Blaser Saddle Mount is either with rail or rings mounting option.
There are loads of advantages in a rail mount, as you do not have to worry about getting the crosshairs level with the bore, there is no pressure and stress on the scope, therefore no rings marks, and is 100% recoil proof.

 

[KB1]

The Blaser Saddle Mount is either with rail or rings mounting option.
There are loads of advantages in a rail mount, as you do not have to worry about getting the crosshairs level with the bore, there is no pressure and stress on the scope, therefore no rings marks, and is 100% recoil proof.

So why have the ring mounts?

 

[Orion]

So why have the ring mounts?

For scopes that don't have rails!

 

[KB1]

For scopes that don't have rails!

I was asking for that.....

i thought the premium brands , swaros, zeiss, schmidt & b would all have rails, is this only on certain types. Am looking at a Z6i 3-18 x 50 BT. Thx

 

[Orion]

i thought the premium brands , swaros, zeiss, schmidt & b would all have rails, is this only on certain types. Am looking at a Z6i 3-18 x 50 BT. Thx

They will usually have the option of a 'bare' scope, (for ring mounting), or rail mount - you'll have to check with the manufacturer's websites or dealers/distributors to check which specific models the rail mount is available in.

In the example you've quoted above it is available with the 'Swarovski Rail' mount - check out the 'Product Variants' drop down menu and you'll see an 'SR' version:

http://uk.swarovskioptik.com/hunting/z6i-c20050107/z6-3-18x50-p-l-4a-300-p5006232

 

[TSG]

I know this is slightly off topic but worth a look.
- there are saddle mount vs alternative saddle mount wars.
https://www.djz.de/r30/vc_content/bilder/firma447/Archiv_2010/blaser-montage-alternativen_sattelmontagen_djz_1213.pdf

 

[Markfox]

The Swarovski rail mount system is the best out there as it has teeth on the scope and teeth on the mount that lock into each other so it's impossible for the scope to move under recoil
(the Swarovski rail mount system is also used by Kahles and Meopta I believe)


the other brands s&b , Zeis etc all rely on tightness of the mounts to the rail they do not have teeth so even tho it's highly unlighkly there is a small chance they could move under recoil but very doubtful

 

[KB1]

They will usually have the option of a 'bare' scope, (for ring mounting), or rail mount - you'll have to check with the manufacturer's websites or dealers/distributors to check which specific models the rail mount is available in.

In the example you've quoted above it is available with the 'Swarovski Rail' mount - check out the 'Product Variants' drop down menu and you'll see an 'SR' version:

http://uk.swarovskioptik.com/hunting/z6i-c20050107/z6-3-18x50-p-l-4a-300-p5006232

got it! Thanks Orion.

 

[TSG]

Zeiss mount has serated tapered blocks (3 of them) that sit inside the rail. if tightened to correct torque they will grab on to the rail.
Granted the swaro is more positive by design.

The Swarovski rail mount system is the best out there as it has teeth on the scope and teeth on the mount that lock into each other so it's impossible for the scope to move under recoil
(the Swarovski rail mount system is also used by Kahles and Meopta I believe)


the other brands s&b , Zeis etc all rely on tightness of the mounts to the rail they do not have teeth so even tho it's highly unlighkly there is a small chance they could move under recoil but very doubtful