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vCJD and BSE - the link


vCJD is the human form of mad cow disease


Creutzfeldt-Jacob disease is an untreatable and invariably fatal disease in humans which is similar to BSE in cattle and scrapie in sheep.
The diseases are together called "spongiform encephalopathies", because they all reduce the brain to the same spongy appearance, with gaps appearing within the tissue.
The type of CJD associated with BSE in cattle is termed "variant CJD", and is distinctively different from standard CJD - which emerges in between 25 and 60 UK adults each year, normally in people aged over 55. Variant CJD began to emerge and be diagnosed in the mid-1990s - there have been 73 confirmed cases so far, with just under a dozen probable cases which have yet to be confirmed, either because the patient is still alive, or because the post mortem has yet to take place.

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vCJD produces gaps inside the brain


It seems to be capable of developing in much younger people than standard CJD.
While death from standard CJD happens approximately six months after diagnosis, it generally takes much longer - up to 18 months - for a patient with vCJD to die.
Diseases like vCJD and BSE are believed to be caused by an infectious agent called a prion, which can be carried in blood and tissue.
This causes the death of brain cells, in humans causing symptoms such as unsteadiness, insomnia, memory loss and dementia.

Post mortem

Eventually, enough brain cells die for the tell-tale gaps to appear in the tissues, although the only way of definitively confirming a CJD case in humans is following death during post mortem.
The prion is a protein, thought to linger in human tissue, potentially for many years, before any symptoms begin to emerge.
Unlike a virus or bacteria, it contains no genetic information of its own, and does not spread by reproducing or making copies of itself.
Instead, scientists believe that it "recruits" another natural protein, PrP, which sits on the surface of brain cells, to become like it.
Eventually, huge numbers of these mutated proteins build up, form insoluble masses within cells, which kill them.
While no definitive link between prion diseases in animals and CJD in humans has been established, the mechanism and progression of the diseases are so similar that most scientists are convinced that infection with BSE prion may under certain circumstances lead to the development of vCJD in humans.
In addition, scientists have been able to produce spongiform symptoms in mice injected with diseased brain matter from cows.
Recent studies also showed that certain cells contained in blood were capable of harbouring the infectious agent and causing spongiform disease when transfused into another animal.
When a cow has BSE, certain parts of its carcass harbour far larger concentrations of prions than others.

Cuts of meat

The brain and spinal cord are thought to be the main reservoirs for prions.
It is the belief of scientists that, just as BSE is likely to have been passed from infected cow through feed contaminated with brains and spinal cord, humans can acquire the BSE prion through cuts of meat which contain this material.
Again, this has yet to be satisfactorily proven by experts.
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Certain cuts of beef are less likely to harbour the prions


And the obvious question is that while millions of UK children and adults have potentially consumed infected flesh from cattle, only a handful so far have succumbed to the disease.
Doctors do not yet know the likely incubation period for CJD. There have been recent strides in diagnosing the condition, through better imaging with brain scans, and through tests on tonsils, which may also harbour the prions.
 
Oh I am ever so sorry Howa, was my post not relevant enough for the Stalking directory? I forgot how every post has to to be 100% relevant.


I was was replying specifically to Pointblanks post below



hope that clears that up.

And...?
 
bsieomsh,,,,, damb glue gets everywhere,heart and tongue sliced thinly bit of mustard mmmm.
 
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bsieomsh,,,,,:popcorn: damb glue gets everywhere,heart and tongue sliced thinly bit of mustard mmmm.

Sounds tasty.

Sadly, I don't think we're ever going to find out how Jubnut's deer brain tasted... Or why Palmer Mike said what he said...

So, maybe you can put away the popcorn...
 
Sounds tasty.

Sadly, I don't think we're ever going to find out how Jubnut's deer brain tasted... Or why Palmer Mike said what he said...

So, maybe you can put away the popcorn...

Tamus.

I refer you you to post 7.


Brains aren't bad, dusted in flour and shallow fried they are kind of like mushroom pate... Sort of. I just cut the skull with a bone saw and scoop out the two halves, not sure how you would get them out intact sufficed to say you'd have to be very careful.
 
Cut the 'nose' off front of head. Then using a bone saw lightly cut lengthways through the skull so you 'score' it deeply without cutting right through. Take firm hold of each side and twist steadily opposite directions, like taking off a tight lid, till skull cracks along score line. Use knife to tease apart, cut as needed. Can be tricky to start but you can part the halves like a nut shell and lift out the brain intact.
Or just carefully cut through top of skull from the neck end till you can get edge of a cleaver or similar in the cut and use that to leaver/twist the skull apart.
Not something we get asked to do that often but the above tend to work. ( If my descriptions make sense ?!)
 
Thanks jubbers. I just wondered if the blasted ones tasted different.

By the way "jubnuts" my old folk used to call those "trotlets".
 
Oh I am ever so sorry Howa, was my post not relevant enough for the Stalking directory? I forgot how every post has to to be 100% relevant.


I was was replying specifically to Pointblanks post below



hope that clears that up.

I think you misunderstand. I wondered what the end result was like.
 
Cut the 'nose' off front of head. Then using a bone saw lightly cut lengthways through the skull so you 'score' it deeply without cutting right through. Take firm hold of each side and twist steadily opposite directions, like taking off a tight lid, till skull cracks along score line. Use knife to tease apart, cut as needed. Can be tricky to start but you can part the halves like a nut shell and lift out the brain intact.
Or just carefully cut through top of skull from the neck end till you can get edge of a cleaver or similar in the cut and use that to leaver/twist the skull apart.
Not something we get asked to do that often but the above tend to work. ( If my descriptions make sense ?!)

thanks!

I will give it a go and see how much work is involved.
 
Ive never been asked for a brain before, been asked for heart and liver etc and my latest request was for the buck/stags pizzle!! Apparently a delicacy and used for all sorts of lovely herbal remedies however I haven't had the chance to try any yet and dont plan to any time soon but I here some of the remedies mite be good for some of the older gents:)
 
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