Camo or gentleman stalker ?

[Mungo]

I think any clothing will work if it (1) minimises contrast with the background, and (2) breaks up your outline.

I don’t think actual patterned camo is necessary. Any drab colour that doesn’t have blue in it and doesn’t contrast strongly with the background will do fine.

 

[enfieldspares]

What’s the SD massive think cammo or gentleman stalker?

Tweed, or rather a bespoke woven estate tweed, is cammo. When Haggart's was still a proper tailoring concern you could look at the tweed pattern books. Some tweed was a dark dark brown. A pest colour in fact. Or that of rank heather. Some tweed was near blue like the French WWI 'Horizon Blue' or others a slate or shale grey blue like modern US Navy cammo. On some estates with lots of exposed rocks and boulders or limestone pavement and such the tweed was a nearly a light grey. Green as in grass green or olive green tweed almost seemed a rarity.

When I had my shooting suit made by them I chose a tweed that most resembled American "Marsh Grass" cammo as by coincidence the estate in Scotland where I then shot and my own pond in Leicestershire was that yellow "gone over" grass and dry reed.. So I asked Haggart's to see what tweed they had nearest to this American "Marsh Grass" cammo. So my shooting suit is almost a yellow ochre hue.



So in reality tweed is cammo. That Jack Pike, Keeper's Tweed and etc., etc. is green or olive green doesn't mean it would actually be a practical stalking tweed on many estates. For the latest scheme of today's British Army cammo would be more practical.

HOWEVER WHAT BETRAYS YOU MOST IS NOT LACK OF CAMMO OR LACK OF MATCHING BESPOKE ESTATE TWEED IT IS LACKING OF BLOOMIN' WELL KEEPING STILL AND KEEPING QUIET! ESPECIALLY THE FIRST IF YOU MAKE SUDDEN MOVEMENT.

In that respect learn from those times you go shooting grey squirrels. The squirrel that doesn't move is hard to spot. But as soon as he moves he's dead (if you can hit him). How many of us have stood stock still waiting for that tell tale peep of the squirrel's head around the tree trunk and then "bang" goes your gun.

 

[John Gryphon]

When a deer susses a hunter it locks onto the shape having proven this 100`s of times the deer when confronted with a proper cam are very much likelier to not distinguish the "shape" that shape has ben instilled in them since year dot...its human. Its a bowling ball head on square shoulders, the deer see it and react....you will improve again by using a wide brimmed hat especially with a bit of fern in it....trust me as it changes what they know of how the danger looks like. Breaking up outlines (shape) I took pics this morning, the young stag was suspicious....I kept taking pics under pressure and he looked right through me. I had time to put a 9.3x6 through his shoulder but I didn't. More pics next post.

 

[John Gryphon]

Keep arguing lads.
Second pic he drilled right through me....straight off the shoulder, no time for friggen about with sticks.....bang

 

[JH83]

Tweed, or rather a bespoke woven estate tweed, is cammo. When Haggart's was still a proper tailoring concern you could look at the tweed pattern books. Some tweed was a dark dark brown. A pest colour in fact. Or that of rank heather. Some tweed was near blue like the French WWI 'Horizon Blue' or others a slate or shale grey blue like modern US Navy cammo. On some estates with lots of exposed rocks and boulders or limestone pavement and such the tweed was a nearly a light grey. Green as in grass green or olive green tweed almost seemed a rarity.

When I had my shooting suit made by them I chose a tweed that most resembled American "Marsh Grass" cammo as by coincidence the estate in Scotland where I then shot and my own pond in Leicestershire was that yellow "gone over" grass and dry reed.. So I asked Haggart's to see what tweed they had nearest to this American "Marsh Grass" cammo. So my shooting suit is almost a yellow ochre hue.

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So in reality tweed is cammo. That Jack Pike, Keeper's Tweed and etc., etc. is green or olive green doesn't mean it would actually be a practical stalking tweed on many estates. For the latest scheme of today's British Army cammo would be more practical.

HOWEVER WHAT BETRAYS YOU MOST IS NOT LACK OF CAMMO OR LACK OF MATCHING BESPOKE ESTATE TWEED IT IS LACKING OF BLOOMIN' WELL KEEPING STILL AND KEEPING QUIET! ESPECIALLY THE FIRST IF YOU MAKE SUDDEN MOVEMENT.

In that respect learn from those times you go shooting grey squirrels. The squirrel that doesn't move is hard to spot. But as soon as he moves he's dead (if you can hit him). How many of us have stood stock still waiting for that tell tale peep of the squirrel's head around the tree trunk and then "bang" goes your gun.

I’m a believer in plus 4’s as a utility item, holds water away from the skin and dries quickly. Looks smart when meeting folks.

On the hill I think MDT works well. Stalking more regularly on the hill over the past 5/6 years it’s astonishing how dark so many coats are, especially wet. Which you are most of the time. To me full cammo is a no no, as interactions with the public are frequent, and full cammo looks too poacher-ish IMO.

Match clothing to surroundings is obviously the best advice. What works in a stika block won’t work well on the hill.

 

[John Gryphon]

To me full cammo is a no no, as interactions with the public are frequent, and full cammo looks too poacher-ish IMO.

ah yes we often forget that you fella`s arent out in the large areas we are used to with no one else around.

 

[John Gryphon]

Actually do we really care about the public`s view of 'us' as no matter what a hunter wears he is still in their eyes a horrible person.
Our hunting gear probably costs more than their fake louis vuitton schitt.

 

[Devon Stalker]

This video is really interesting, showing that deer don’t see colour the same way we do.

Watch: Nature’s colour vision trick allows this tiger to creep up unseen on her prey

‘To the deer, the tiger isn’t orange at all.’

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[John Gryphon]

This video is really interesting, showing that deer don’t see colour the same way we do.

Watch: Nature’s colour vision trick allows this tiger to creep up unseen on her prey

‘To the deer, the tiger isn’t orange at all.’

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I remember several times in answer to those that insisted camo was a waste of time and only for tackle buyers. My replies were "tell that to the tiger"

 

[Sitka]

Swandi Grey and brown checked shacket on top half ( second hand off vintage rail) and harkila trousers ( justified excessive cost due to saving on cladding top half second hand). Wool top makes no noise going though spruce woodland, in fact it picks up camo on the way.

 

[wildfowler.250]

I’ve started changing all of my kuiu stuff as it wears out from a verde camo to a green ash. I figured, why buy a decent rain jacket and not be able to wear it down the high street. I mean, you can, but you look like a bit of an odd ball.

Same with the trousers, absolutely perfect for a Sunday hike if slightly wet. Less so if you look like you’re in the military

 

[Pete6.5]

You could go stalking hi vis jacket it's mainly movement and scent that are important.

 

[Mungo]

You could go stalking hi vis jacket it's mainly movement and scent that are important.

You can - but anything that contrasts strongly with the background shows up movement much more clearly

 

[JH83]

Actually do we really care about the public`s view of 'us' as no matter what a hunter wears he is still in their eyes a horrible person.
Our hunting gear probably costs more than their fake louis vuitton schitt.

No but I care about the landowners getting calls, police etc.

A lot of my ground is full of hikers so I try to ‘tone it down’ to give myself an easy life.

 

[Kalahari]

You mean a gentleman can't wear camo? Thatwill upset all the Ruperts in the Brigade of Guards!

David.

 

[John Gryphon]

You could go stalking hi vis jacket it's mainly movement and scent that are important.

Waiting on you in your hi vis gear with all of your trophy deer old chap...thanks.

 

[Tim.243]

No but I care about the landowners getting calls, police etc.

A lot of my ground is full of hikers so I try to ‘tone it down’ to give myself an easy life.

The joggers in shell suits don't have a problem flaring ducks as they run up and down the sea wall.
Or walkers coming off the foot path trying to clap the decoys off...
Then you get the "it's 10 pm on a Thursday" gang Any one care to guess what Mr 10pm does for a job?

 

[John Gryphon]

I would have pulled the mongrel out of me strides and snakes hissed on him.

 

[Dunwaters]

Loden jacket, brimmed hat and Harkila strides.
Strange, some of wouldn’t dream of going shooting improperly attired, but you have no problem going stalking dressed like a Balkan war era militia man?

 

[John Gryphon]

but you have no problem going stalking dressed like a Balkan war era militia man?

well isnt that a put down of those that choose to wear camo.