Client stalking agreement/contract

[Jimbob39]

We are looking at taking a limited number of clients out. We have high seats and also accompanied stalking. I would like to be able to show the estate owner a contract of some sort which the shooter would agree to/sign. Does anyone have a link to such a thing? Kind regards

 

[Pard 007]

Surely you have a contract with the estate, which you have to have all the relevant insurance inplace for a commercial stalking operation. As for a individual booking stalking minimum Basc , Ngo member insurance would be a must. Also DSC or other possibility. Never been asked to sign a contract for a paid stalk, but for a syndicate place yes that was more about rules etc, hope this helps

 

[VSS]

Surely you have a contract with the estate, which you have to have all the relevant insurance inplace for a commercial stalking operation. As for a individual booking stalking minimum Basc , Ngo member insurance would be a must. Also DSC or other possibility. Never been asked to sign a contract for a paid stalk, but for a syndicate place yes that was more about rules etc, hope this helps

It's not the responsibility of a paying client to have insurance, in the scenario outlined by the OP. It's the commercial outfitter that needs insurance cover for their activities and their guests.

 

[Pard 007]

Would agree with your post VSS. The point on guest best practice for anyone that shoots is to have some sort of insurance via a shooting organisation.

 

[Jimbob39]

Thank you all. It’s a new idea as we need to control the fallow and muntjac, but time is a factor and also getting rid of the carcasses in the most efficient way possible. For the past 4 years it has only been us allowed to shoot at all on the estate. With regards some form of commercial insurance who would be the best option? We both have BASC. Assume clients should have their own cover as well? It’s all new to me as never paid for stalking.

 

[Pard 007]

I'm probably not the best individual to answer that question, would class myself as a so called recreational stalker, but would like to say I conduct my deer stalking in a professional & ethical manner. Sure one of the professional guides on here would have a better idea on how to offer you sound advice.

 

[Dorset Deer]

Thank you all. It’s a new idea as we need to control the fallow and muntjac, but time is a factor and also getting rid of the carcasses in the most efficient way possible. For the past 4 years it has only been us allowed to shoot at all on the estate. With regards some form of commercial insurance who would be the best option? We both have BASC. Assume clients should have their own cover as well? It’s all new to me as never paid for stalking.

I use Clivertons for commercial stalking insurance.

 

[devon deer stalker]

It's not the responsibility of a paying client to have insurance, in the scenario outlined by the OP. It's the commercial outfitter that needs insurance cover for their activities and their guests.

That's not correct, it was once, but a new condition of my commercial insurance is they must have their own insurance, that's with Clivertons

 

[Chris Richardson]

Surely you have a contract with the estate, which you have to have all the relevant insurance inplace for a commercial stalking operation. As for an individual booking stalking minimum Basc , Ngo member insurance would be a must. Also DSC or other possibility. Never been asked to sign a contract for a paid stalk, but for a syndicate place yes that was more about rules etc, hope this helps

Why would they need dsc as a paying client ?

 

[Pard 007]

Not a requirement to have DSC, say you were a complete Novice just wanting a stalk to see if deer stalking was for you!! However most syndicates require DSC1 minimum that's just the way things are going. Most people who do any courses will learn something.

 

[Chris Richardson]

Not a requirement to have DSC, say you were a complete Novice just wanting a stalk to see if deer stalking was for you!! However most syndicates require DSC1 minimum that's just the way things are going. Most people who do any courses will learn something.

But it’s not a syndicate it’s paid client stalking

 

[Pard 007]

Not entirely sure the point your trying to make? The OP was asking what he might ask for in regard to prospective clients. It was just my thoughts on what he may or may not ask for. Perhaps if you take time to go through some of the stalking adds some ask for DSC!!

 

[Chris Richardson]

Not entirely sure the point your trying to make? The OP was asking what he might ask for in regard to prospective clients. It was just my thoughts on what he may or may not ask for. Perhaps if you take time to go through some of the stalking adds some ask for DSC!!

Yes for syndicates not for paid client stalking

 

[Chris Richardson]

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[8x57]

That's not correct, it was once, but a new condition of my commercial insurance is they must have their own insurance, that's with Clivertons

How do you accommodate those that wish to simply try stalking and may not have their own insurance, or do you not cater for such clients?

 

[devon deer stalker]

I can't take them out, as I said, it's a fairly new condition of my commercial insurance policy.
If I get a friend wanting to try out deer stalking they must have their own insurance.
I prefer a bespoke commercial insurance policy, mine covers deer stalking, vermin, fly fishing instruction and venison sales.

 

[Overlay]

I can't take them out, as I said, it's a fairly new condition of my commercial insurance policy.
If I get a friend wanting to try out deer stalking they must have their own insurance.
I prefer a bespoke commercial insurance policy, mine covers deer stalking, vermin, fly fishing instruction and venison sales.

On my insurance i can have a max of 3 other persons for 30 days per annum covered by my commercial insurance for shooting of any discipline, check with your insurance company on getting something like that on your insurance to give to the landowner and for you request from any stalker to provide a copy their insurance and status on experience, that way no one gets uptight and all areas are covered, good luck

 

[devon deer stalker]

On my insurance i can have a max of 3 other persons for 30 days per annum covered by my commercial insurance for shooting of any discipline, check with your insurance company on getting something like that on your insurance to give to the landowner and for you request from any stalker to provide a copy their insurance and status on experience, that way no one gets uptight and all areas are covered, good luck

Thanks, that's something I will look into, at the moment I'm exceeding 30 days as deer stalking is combined with fly fishing, but I plan on winding down the fishing business next year so that might work for me.

 

[25 Sharps]

That's not correct, it was once, but a new condition of my commercial insurance is they must have their own insurance, that's with Clivertons

That's pretty poor, just means that your insurer will claim off of theirs, ultimately you are providing the service so it is you that should be insured.

 

[devon deer stalker]

That's pretty poor, just means that your insurer will claim off of theirs, ultimately you are providing the service so it is you that should be insured.

Who are you insured with to take out your clients?
Clivertons decision aside, anybody squeezing that trigger should have their own insurance should they not?