Counterfeit scopes

Cloverleaf

New Member
Just a quick heads up that there's a bunch of cheap Chinese knock off fake scopes appearing on the market. I know that this has been going on for some time but it is getting materially worse. Some are obviously fake, others are far closer to the original and require close inspection to be revealed as counterfeit. Unsurprisingly many will fail to hold zero or will fog up if they are mounted on anything with more recoil than an air rifle.

As just one example, the German company Minox (famous in the Cold War for their tiny spy cameras) make a range of optically high quality rifle scopes with genuine Minox products priced between about £700 - £2,000 see : Riflescopes however a quick search on Aliexpress (a kind of Chinese amazon) shows that there are openly advertised Chinese-made fake Minox scopes for about £60 :


The upshot of this is that UK shooters and dealers are importing these counterfeits and then re-advertising them for sale online or on ebay as genuine.

It is not just restricted to Minox, there are fake Leupold, Schmidt & Bender and Zeiss scopes too..





You have been warned. As ever, caveat emptor - buyer beware !
 

Colonel Rimfire

Well-Known Member
I saw these a few months ago and was tempted, purely to show off at the range.

(If anyone remembers the fake TAG watch craze in the early 90's where it was deemed, far cooler to parade your fake Tag and tell everyone it was fake, with a sense of pride "25 quid portabella market" )

Apparently its pretty obvious there're fake but I cant help thinking that a few unfortunate people and, I know of at least one gun shop who got burned by a fake Loopy.
 

bullet chucker

Well-Known Member
Your correct doing that my friend, I use, Swarovski on both my Swede, and 30.06. Still have the old pellet' gun scopes lying about though?

BC.
 

Sampo

Well-Known Member
Wish.com - The home of counterfeit anything. Grab yourself a scope you can shoot at or destroy.

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Fair Hill

Well-Known Member
A lad on here sold me a fake Leupold and then asked that it be returned to "a rifle scope specialist" who had sold it to him as genuine. I returned it and got my money back.
 

Morkai

Well-Known Member
That’s fine and worth a punt. It’s when it says “ZEISS” on the twiddling bits that I cast my toys far & wide.

K
Yeah no branding on these, they are '6-24' x 50 (the zoom isnt really 24 but still good), parallax adjustment works great, they hold zero, illuminated reticle etc. 20210811_192512.jpg
 

Klenchblaize

Well-Known Member
Yeah no branding on these, they are '6-24' x 50 (the zoom isnt really 24 but still good), parallax adjustment works great, they hold zero, illuminated reticle etc. View attachment 216987
You do realise I’m now gonna give you serious grief in the matter of your choice of scope mounts and the height of them!

I’m sure there’s a good reason for the latter so just ignore me.

K
 

Sako75Hunter

Well-Known Member
There's no way I'd want a scope that might be dodgy on any of my rifles, whatever the calibre. I want to know my optics are very unlikely to let me down.

It's really not worth all the hassle of:
1. Getting permission from the authorities for a rifle
2. Finding and buying a rifle
3. Buying a scope, mounts, and all the other necessary bits
4. Setting the scope up right and zeroing it
5. Getting permission to hunt ground
6. Making all the necessary preparations for a hunt
7. Going out to your hunting ground and getting set up
8. Doing whatever you have to do to get a deer or whatever other quarry you're after in your sights
And then discovering the scope is a piece of crap.

I'd much rather pay the extra and know that if something goes wrong, it's almost certainly my fault and not my equipment. I can't understand any other philosophy on this, though of course if someone buys a knock-off scope without realising it that's another story.
 

Morkai

Well-Known Member
There's no way I'd want a scope that might be dodgy on any of my rifles, whatever the calibre. I want to know my optics are very unlikely to let me down.

It's really not worth all the hassle of:
1. Getting permission from the authorities for a rifle
2. Finding and buying a rifle
3. Buying a scope, mounts, and all the other necessary bits
4. Setting the scope up right and zeroing it
5. Getting permission to hunt ground
6. Making all the necessary preparations for a hunt
7. Going out to your hunting ground and getting set up
8. Doing whatever you have to do to get a deer or whatever other quarry you're after in your sights
And then discovering the scope is a piece of crap.

I'd much rather pay the extra and know that if something goes wrong, it's almost certainly my fault and not my equipment. I can't understand any other philosophy on this, though of course if someone buys a knock-off scope without realising it that's another story.
Regarding the unbranded or the fakes?

If you had no issues at step 4 with an unbranded (and repeated success of grouping) then why would you get to step 8 and realise the scope is no good?

You would know it was crap well before you used it on quarry.
 
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