Cow shooting!

[Apache]

What is the source of the images?

The HSA booklet suggests an inch above the point of intersection of the cross on a horse - has always worked for me

Cattle it is at the intersection

The HSA is the authority on such things.

I have shot big bulls with a .22RF. .223 more than adequate providing you shoot it in the right place. I always wonder why they don't get an experienced large animal vet, gamekeeper etc.

 

[photopro]

I can post a reply to this thread from a first hand perspective since I carried out a "humane despatch" on a bull only a few days ago, calibre used 6.5x55 140grn softpoint.
I would go along with the intersecting diagonals if the shot is taken square on to the head this would be the case if the beast was feeding head down. In my case however the head was up and the bull was looking at me, if I had used the intersecting diagonals the shot could well have been too high, in this instance I aimed one inch high from a line drawn between the eyes and the bull dropped like a Jenga tower. I was pleased and relieved I had got this right not just for the sake of the bull but also because of the entourage of "officials" present. My advice is, do your homework, check your sights and use a rangefinder to verify the target distance for exact point of impact.

 

[Brithunter]

Please remember one must not criticise the Police in any way as they "are the professionals".

 

[flytie]

I was fortunate enough to talk to the chap who used to train the West Mercia ARU's earlier on this year, we were shooting together, and was told that they still practised a lot on animal destruction. We do have a rather large safari park in this area which falls under their purview too, so they have some big calibre stuff which is buffalo and elephant capable.

Anyway he used and provided targets shaped like the animals and they used the HSA book for British animal stuff and a rather expensive but well known book on African animals for the big stuff. Relevant targets were made and used regularly. The front on head shot is favoured on our cattle/horses, or so I am told, because it has the rest of the body to absorb the energy from the bullet, which makes sense!

So some police forces do regularly train for escaped animals.

​Simon

 

[User00047]

I was driving along a country lane, late one rainy night after I'd been lamping a few years ago when I saw in the road ahead, some flashing hazard lights of several cars parked up in the road and some silhouettes of people moving around. I approached slowly in the car and realised that a lively bullock calf (250-300lb) was loose in the road and the people were milling about trying to stop it from escaping in the direction of a junction of a main road, some 300 hundred yds away. This stretch of lane has very high, steep sided stone hedges.
The very moment I arrived on the scene, the calf broke loose and ran through the people/cars towards the main road so I followed after him in the car and managed to overtake him (without hitting him) in the narrow lane and stopped the other side of him about 50yds short of the busy main road, put the hazard lights on, got out and opened the car boot. I had a torch, a shotgun, a rope and a roll of duck tape, so I held the torch in my mouth and reached for the......................duck tape. The calf knew he was trapped, I could see the anger in his eyes, he was sizing me up to make a break for the main road again Jonah Lomu vs.Mike Catt style, but fortunately for me, the farmer arrived from the other direction in his tractor at this point and he was angrier than the calf so we managed to tackle the slippery devil to the ground, duck-tape his feet together for long enough to tie him properly and then rolled him into the front loader for transport back to the farm. We all ended up a bit black and blue but I never even thought about shooting him (the calf, not the farmer)
Now I realise that a calf is nothing more than an angry bull in miniature, and he didn't have proper horns but the public had already phoned the police and I really don't know what might have happened when they showed up. I have a lot of repect for our police forces but I can't imagine average pc plod and wpc plod tackling and tying a cow of any size.

I am sure that if the police had someone with a 4x4, a dart rifle and some extra heavy-duty duck tape , they could avoid most of these unsightly public killings, which as we've seen are usually captured by the public on their camera phones. I reckon they only shoot animals with live rounds because they're not properly trained/equipped to attempt live capture. Although that said, I believe proper calibre guns should be available at all times as a last resort.

 

[andymarsh]

What is the source of the images?

The HSA booklet suggests an inch above the point of intersection of the cross on a horse - has always worked for me

Cattle it is at the intersection

The HSA is the authority on such things.

I have shot big bulls with a .22RF. .223 more than adequate providing you shoot it in the right place. I always wonder why they don't get an experienced large animal vet, gamekeeper etc.

My father used nto manage a farm in argyll and one morning found a bull dead lying in the feild 50 yards from the main road, on closer inspection it had a small bullet hole exactly where the diagram above suggests. we disected the head and found a 22 bullet. we can only assume some scroat was lamping and saw the eyes and thought it was a deer and dropped it upon realising it was alot larger decided to leave it!!!

Upside was we ate beef for the next 6 months


Andy

 

[wildfowler.250]

What is the source of the images?

The HSA booklet suggests an inch above the point of intersection of the cross on a horse - has always worked for me

Cattle it is at the intersection

The HSA is the authority on such things.

I have shot big bulls with a .22RF. .223 more than adequate providing you shoot it in the right place. I always wonder why they don't get an experienced large animal vet, gamekeeper etc.

Useful, thanks!

 

[Devil_Bri]

Over here they have been known to use an AI 308, heart and lung shot to try and drop it, then follow it up at close range with a solid slug to the head

 

[1066kieran]

I think that the idea of shooting an enemy soldier is most definately to kill that soldier. It just happens that FMJs are what soldiers use to shoot each other.

Although as a soldier the idea may be to kill your enemies the grand scheme of thing is to wound.
Shoot a man you lose one enemy wound a man he's out of action as are hopefully three or so of his comrades dealing with it not to mention the drain on medical resources.