Custom ammo developer

[Liveonce]

Complying with the firearms act, CIP and HSE explosives regulations is the relatively easy part, what most do not do because it is expensive, is the classification for transport, dangerous goods are subject to strict control for transport.

It is illegal to transport unclassified explosive articles, other than for private use in your own private vehicle, otherwise you could never take your home loads outside your house.

So anybody in business making ammunition would need to have the ammunition classified for transport.

Once classified for transport entries are made by VCA in the packaging database and the HSE as the U.K. competent authority in the LOCEF database.

Look on any outer cardboard box used to transport cartridges or ammunition like the 250 box for shotgun cartridges and you will see a code starting 4G and ending with a unique number, unique to the manufacture and if classified in the UK that will be held within the VCA packaging database. The actual explosive article following classification is then recorded in the LOCEF database together with manufactures details and packaging unique number.

Classification of explosives for transport - HSE

www.hse.gov.uk

Register for free to see the entries in the HSE LOCEF database.

Packaging Approvals database

Download the lists of approvals organised by packaging type and material

www.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk

Again free to view.

So very easy to check who has done the classification for transport.

Same process is used for fireworks or any class 1. Dangerous Goods.

In a previous job as a consultant knowledge in this process earns good money.

 

[Dalua]

I would suggest that you do not take anybody's words, or thoughts, seriously at face value, but rather do a little bit of research into the laws, both statute and case, that apply to manufacturing ammunition.

I don't - which I why I queried your initial statement.

What I seem to have found is that while it quite possibly applies to commercial undertakings, my previous practice of suppling my father with cartridges, hand-loaded by me, for his target-rifle seems to have been entirely lawful.

 

[Island]

I don't - which I why I queried your initial statement.

What I seem to have found is that while it quite possibly applies to commercial undertakings, my previous practice of suppling my father with cartridges, hand-loaded by me, for his target-rifle seems to have been entirely lawful.

Indeed it is.

The legislation quoted by Sharpie is quite clear in qualifying the breadth of its scope. For clarity:

"3Business and other transactions with firearms and ammunition
(1)A person commits an offence if, by way of trade or business, he—
(a)manufactures, sells, transfers, repairs, tests or proves any firearm or ammunition to which section 1 of this Act applies, or a shot gun ; or
(b)exposes for sale or transfer, or has in his possession for sale, transfer, repair, test or proof any such firearm or ammunition, or a shot gun,without being registered under this Act as a firearms dealer."

Assuming that Friend A (the loader) and Friend B (requiring loaded ammunition) both have the same chambering on their FAC, and assuming that Friend A does not exceed his license limits for loaded ammunition, then there is no legislative bar to Friend A manufacturing ammunition to a specific recipe developed for Friend B and then gifting it to him/her, without being an RFD. It would only become an offence if Friend A was to SELL the ammunition to Friend B, that is "by way of trade or business".

 

[25 Sharps]

Evening all. I've only ever used factory ammo but I'm keen to have some ammo developed for my .270. Is there someone reputable in the Yorkshire area that would develop a load for a specific gun? Any what are the usual costs of this service?
Thanks in advance.

HPS will do custom loads for you, you could get them delivered to your rfd

 

[Liveonce]

Evening all. I've only ever used factory ammo but I'm keen to have some ammo developed for my .270. Is there someone reputable in the Yorkshire area that would develop a load for a specific gun? Any what are the usual costs of this service?
Thanks in advance.

I would seriously consider investing in some reloading equipment, lee is good value for money, digital scales can be had for very little money from eBay. You can then develop your own loads and very likely enjoy the process and add to your overall enjoyment of shooting.
Paying someone to do if for you would likely be more expensive than setting yourself up to do it, getting, your rifle to them and back, paying for their time will not be cheap.
Embrace the situation invest in reloading you will not be disappointed and can be future proof if you latter change bullets etc.

 

[Jason Doyle]

I would seriously consider investing in some reloading equipment, lee is good value for money, digital scales can be had for very little money from eBay. You can then develop your own loads and very likely enjoy the process and add to your overall enjoyment of shooting.
Paying someone to do if for you would likely be more expensive than setting yourself up to do it, getting, your rifle to them and back, paying for their time will not be cheap.
Embrace the situation invest in reloading you will not be disappointed and can be future proof if you latter change bullets etc.

Yea I think this seems to be the way to go. Had several DM's on the subject and it seems it's not as expensive or difficult as I feared. Many thanks.

 

[Ronin]

Yea I think this seems to be the way to go. Had several DM's on the subject and it seems it's not as expensive or difficult as I feared. Many thanks.

Just be careful who you take advice from

If you start reloading - suggest you take advice from a Proven source not “some guy off the Internet” who may have been conducting dangerous practices for years and got away with it

Buy a reloading manual for starters - learn the basics

 

[25 Sharps]

Yea I think this seems to be the way to go. Had several DM's on the subject and it seems it's not as expensive or difficult as I feared. Many thanks.

It really isn’t you can get set up for under £200, the Lee anniversary kits are good value for money, just add dies a digital vernier and a cheap manual trickler and you’re away.

Get a decent reloading manual or ‘the ABCs of reloading’ which is an excellent book that way you can weed out the wheat from the chaff on what people tell you online and you see on you tube. It doesn’t have load data but there is loads of proper published data on line from bullet and powder manufacturers now so that’s not an issue

 

[Jason Doyle]

Just be careful who you take advice from

If you start reloading - suggest you take advice from a Proven source not “some guy off the Internet” who may have been conducting dangerous practices for years and got away with it

Buy a reloading manual for starters - learn the basics

All my best decisions have been made following the advice of "guys off the internet" . In all seriousness thanks for the advice. There is a reloading manual on the way.

 

[takbok]

@Jason Doyle here's a very good online reloading guide in the meantime:

http://www.ramshot.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/WPHandloading-Guide-7.0-Web-REV.pdf

 

[Erik Hamburger]

I can highly recommend HPS Target Rifles for a load development / custom amo.
But...in Glos, not Yorkshire....