CZ 457 .22 LR

[Steve123]

Just wondering if anyone knows, are the CZ 457 LRP action and barrel a better quality /different to the standard 457 with the synthetic stock.
It seems hard to believe they machine an identical looking action to match tolerances and fit a better barrel just for the LRP .

 

[palo]

The action will be the same. The only difference in the barrels is the LRP is fluted and has a match chamber.

 

[Steve123]

What does that mean , it has tighter tolerance and more uniform. Is it going to make that much difference to accuracy.

 

[The Bear]

Enjoy,

there are several video episodes at ranges to 330 metres on the channel plus barrel swap demo. Although action is identical across 457 range, the barrels are not and it's so good, I BOUGHT it after using it. The first one I couldnt bear to send back in ten years.

 

[The Bear]

Just to note, there are also videos of anschutz, tikka, bergara and savage rimfires on there as well, all had merits but there was one stand out option and some are visible FAILS......but then again, reviewers dont tell the truth do they.....one certainly does

 

[Farmer Rick]

Just wondering if anyone knows, are the CZ 457 LRP action and barrel a better quality /different to the standard 457 with the synthetic stock.
It seems hard to believe they machine an identical looking action to match tolerances and fit a better barrel just for the LRP .

Hi Steve, I have a 457 mtr and did a fair bit of research before purchasing. The mtr and lrp both have the match chamber, I can’t comment on the “standard” barrel as I haven’t shot one , but if you look at the barrel alone costs (McAvoy’s have all them listed - CZ 457 Rifles)
You’ll see the mtr and lrp barrels are about £75 more which I guess is probably down to a little extra time and qc?
I haven’t used a “standard” barrel, but I can tell you the match chamber is fantastic and with match / ammo the barre likes will consistently do the sub 15mm claimed by cz.
I do however have one issue with the match chamber / the mtr I have, I have done a reasonable amount of ammo testing and found eley match to be super (around 7/8mm groups on average or better), but they are bloody noisy !!! Im mean super sonic 17hmr loud... so with the eley grouping well I tried thier subs, group very well but all go supersonic and as loud as the match.

I wondered if it was a batch issue, so tried a 452 with them and they were sub sonic and quiet... so not the ammo. I think the tight chambering has a lot to do with it, plus barrel length. I discovered after talking with eley direct that all 22lr ammo is tested in 26” barrel, mines the 20” so the billet will technically be leaving faster as from my knowledge and research 22lr begins to slow after around 16”....

cci subs - about 50/50 super / sub sonic
Rws subs - all stay under sub sonic - group about 12mm ish, with the odd flyer out to 20mm.

so in short - match chamber very accurate, but if you want to shoot subs, might not wrk with your preferred ammo.
The 457 has a new action which I believe is very similar to the anschutz match, it’s a preferred action that dolphin guns are making their elr 22lr on, and for the money I think the standard would be great. The upside is that you could always swap the barrels out of you found the standard not to be any good and go to a mtr or lrp one (or a lijia one!!!) and it would still be cheaper than buying the lrp.

I have put my mtr into a oryx chassis and it all works great. I would say if you start with the synthetic you can “build” up from there without really loosing out as you go... just my thoughts having gone through the process.

few pics of the testing between the 457 mtr and the 452 (would say it’s not 100% fair in the match ammo as there was a lot of jumping from ammo to ammo without giving the barrel a few rounds to acclimatise)

 

[Farmer Rick]

Just wondering if anyone knows, are the CZ 457 LRP action and barrel a better quality /different to the standard 457 with the synthetic stock.
It seems hard to believe they machine an identical looking action to match tolerances and fit a better barrel just for the LRP .

sorry one additional point, I belive the actions are identical across the range, it is only the chambering of the barrel that varies. I don’t know, but I wonder if they do match the action to the barrel on the mtr and lrp.... might do and hence the bit of a premium (plus the stocks obviously)
One interesting point to not - lijia do a drop in barre for the 457 and supply it with a set of ships so you can measure the head space on to the action face and tailor it to match perfectly.... maybe cz do this when paring barrels and action together?... like Remington do when producing thier action x40 etc....
Just a few more bits of info I came across whilst reseaching, hope it helps.

 

[ColinBr]

Almost bought 1 before I bought the new Anschutz 1761 silhouette.

Nothing to do with anything wrong with the CZ and I would still love 1.

It's just I've used Anschutz rifles since in my early teens and love the 2 stage match trigger on them. Mine is set at around 10oz.

I watched the above review and have to say as a review its 1 of the best reviews I've seen, and trust what he says.

I've taken my 1761 out to 100 yards using SK standard match ammo and put 10 shots into an inch with not much effort on my part in freezing chittering weather. Something I'll need to try again once I get a chance to get to the range again without freezing my bollocks off.

Anyway back to topic. Yes the barrel or more to the point the chamber is of tighter tolerances and will help with accuracy on the CZ compared to their standard barrels.

 

[palo]

My mate bought a new cz457 varmint and put it into a oryx chassis.
He sent me this 10 shot group he shot with sk match.

 

[Steve123]

sorry one additional point, I belive the actions are identical across the range, it is only the chambering of the barrel that varies. I don’t know, but I wonder if they do match the action to the barrel on the mtr and lrp.... might do and hence the bit of a premium (plus the stocks obviously)
One interesting point to not - lijia do a drop in barre for the 457 and supply it with a set of ships so you can measure the head space on to the action face and tailor it to match perfectly.... maybe cz do this when paring barrels and action together?... like Remington do when producing thier action x40 etc....
Just a few more bits of info I came across whilst reseaching, hope it helps.

Thank you for taking the time with that info , very helpful. Just one question, how much are the match barrels .

 

[Steve123]

I just looked it up. The match barrel is £253 , in the Mtr it is available as a 16 “.I guess they would fit any CZ 457

 

[The Bear]

Thank you for taking the time with that info , very helpful. Just one question, how much are the match barrels .

SGC list all the barrel/calibre options on their website. I also have a 17 HMR varmint barrel for my LRP, a friend gave me a 455 he wanted rid of when doing 1 for 1 so it was a pleasant surprise to find they are interchangeable and compatible
with 457 with the correct magazine/feed ramp insert.

£184 for standard barrel kit
£268 for LRP fluted kit

 

[Farmer Rick]

Thank you for taking the time with that info , very helpful. Just one question, how much are the match barrels .

Your welcome, thought it was worth passing on as I had done a fair bit of reading on the subject. Yes all barrels are interchangeable in the 457 and as @The Bear said they are also backwards compatible to the 455.
Im not 100% sure, but I did read that the new 457 action has been completely redesigned ( inspired by/ from Anschutz) and it is designed to reduce contact on the bullets / marking of rounds below etc, they've reduce the spring weight to to improve accuracy and also made the safety the right way round... so depending on price and what you are after a 455 might be a good choice with a new barrel or a new 457 with all the latest changes...
I had considered buying the synthetic version and upgrading from there as it is cheaper, certainly if you are going to put it in a different chassis or stock at a later date and obvsuly if your using it out in the field the synthetic stock is perfect, but the deal was too good on the MTR at the time... so I went for that.

The groups I posted above are of the 452 vs the 457, if you look at the match ammo on the 452 - exclude the top left flyer as the barrel had NEVER had match ammo through it, the group is pretty good - thats from a well used & abused 452 thats probably a good 15 years old.... so I would say the standard barrel will shoot pretty well...

What are you planning on using it for? that might help steer your decision a little.

 

[Steve123]

I would use it for corvina rats and squirrels
And target practice. The only reason I have not bought one so far , is I bought an fac FX Maverick as it enables me to shoot into trees and farm buildings. I am waiting to really test the air rifle , but I think it will make a .22 Lr redundant. The only real benefit I can see for a Lr is for rabbits at 100 yards. But the slugs would probably do a similar job. A small part broke on the FX and so far it’s been with the Sportsman over a month waiting for the part. Was toying with a Rimmy until my Fx comes back.

 

[Farmer Rick]

If its a stop gap gun, then maybe go for a second hand 455, then you could always upgrade the barrel if you decided to keep it... if your doing bunnies at 100yrds could be worth looking at the 17hmr (and of course if you have a interchangeable barrel you could do either 22 or 17 if your FAC allowed it), then it wouldn't be redundant when the FX comes back... and is probably more suited to shooting the 100yrd + range...

 

[The Bear]

The 455 was a minor update to 452/3 design, the 457, other than barrel tenon compatibility, is a whole different setup and layout with FAR superior trigger and action dynamics, like ai said, ai was that impressed I bought it it was a refreshing example of a manufacturer driven by performance and not economy. I got so bored of the same old question "which is the most accurate?" yet so many people utterly ignore the awful handling ergonomics of rifle's whose price peers totally outshine them. My YouTube reviews would show far more detail but its tricky to fund the exact reasons they decline to monetise some and dissasembly or pretty much 'the use of tools' is a No-No and they remove any profitability from them, hence why the magazines will still carry more detail and yes, mine carry BALANCED AND NEGATIVE CRITIQUE where appropriate. If videos are manufacturer sponsored, they are just adverts but the downside of making balanced HONEST reviews is that.......400,000 views on a Sako S20 review wouldn't even pay the ammo bill so it's thanks to non associated importers for ammo that allows me to continue. It's good really as unless the gun has MAJOR problems, most achieve the benchmark MOA without much problem so the ammo manufacturers aren't to blame although the combined pairing will always show favourites.

watch the Bergara B14 rimfire review if you want to see hard truth honestly told as an example and I was the second person to be supplied this gun that clearly showed faults.....you would think after the first guy sent it back with a report that they might check it!

 

[ColinBr]

The 455 was a minor update to 452/3 design, the 457, other than barrel tenon compatibility, is a whole different setup and layout with FAR superior trigger and action dynamics, like ai said, ai was that impressed I bought it it was a refreshing example of a manufacturer driven by performance and not economy. I got so bored of the same old question "which is the most accurate?" yet so many people utterly ignore the awful handling ergonomics of rifle's whose price peers totally outshine them. My YouTube reviews would show far more detail but its tricky to fund the exact reasons they decline to monetise some and dissasembly or pretty much 'the use of tools' is a No-No and they remove any profitability from them, hence why the magazines will still carry more detail and yes, mine carry BALANCED AND NEGATIVE CRITIQUE where appropriate. If videos are manufacturer sponsored, they are just adverts but the downside of making balanced HONEST reviews is that.......400,000 views on a Sako S20 review wouldn't even pay the ammo bill so it's thanks to non associated importers for ammo that allows me to continue. It's good really as unless the gun has MAJOR problems, most achieve the benchmark MOA without much problem so the ammo manufacturers aren't to blame although the combined pairing will always show favourites.

watch the Bergara B14 rimfire review if you want to see hard truth honestly told as an example and I was the second person to be supplied this gun that clearly showed faults.....you would think after the first guy sent it back with a report that they might check it!

Nice review. Just subscribed

 

[The Bear]

Nice review. Just subscribed

There is a 'part 2' and also barrel swap videos

 

[ColinBr]

There is a 'part 2' and also barrel swap videos

Thanks will have a look

Have you tried the 1761 in 22lr?

I found the SK match ammo really good in mine. Normally my go to ammo for accuracy is Eley match, but found the SK match easily on par with it, and better out at 100 yards.

 

[Farmer Rick]

The 455 was a minor update to 452/3 design, the 457, other than barrel tenon compatibility, is a whole different setup and layout with FAR superior trigger and action dynamics, like ai said, ai was that impressed I bought it it was a refreshing example of a manufacturer driven by performance and not economy. I got so bored of the same old question "which is the most accurate?" yet so many people utterly ignore the awful handling ergonomics of rifle's whose price peers totally outshine them. My YouTube reviews would show far more detail but its tricky to fund the exact reasons they decline to monetise some and dissasembly or pretty much 'the use of tools' is a No-No and they remove any profitability from them, hence why the magazines will still carry more detail and yes, mine carry BALANCED AND NEGATIVE CRITIQUE where appropriate. If videos are manufacturer sponsored, they are just adverts but the downside of making balanced HONEST reviews is that.......400,000 views on a Sako S20 review wouldn't even pay the ammo bill so it's thanks to non associated importers for ammo that allows me to continue. It's good really as unless the gun has MAJOR problems, most achieve the benchmark MOA without much problem so the ammo manufacturers aren't to blame although the combined pairing will always show favourites.

watch the Bergara B14 rimfire review if you want to see hard truth honestly told as an example and I was the second person to be supplied this gun that clearly showed faults.....you would think after the first guy sent it back with a report that they might check it!

Really appreciate the reviews! Helped me make my decision.