i have moras at the moment and i used to have to puma game wardens (I think the ones with the green insert late 1970s but my house in cape town got cleared out and i have not replaced them in 30 years ) so i am looking for a fixed blade equivalentI find Mora are a good cheap entry blade, pretty dull and their stainless steel is cr@p and won't hold an edge long.
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I think because knives are smaller, slide through vegetation easily, and once out of the sheath, aren’t physically attached to you. You also tend to use them when you’re most tired and often in the dark. It’s extremely easy to put one down while dealing with a carcass, then forget about it for a critical minute or two.
I’ve lost 3 knives over the years, but never any other bits of kit!
My range starts right around 150 for stalking knives , however there should be little difference in actual performance cutting / gralloching as the costs rise up through different steels , handles, shieths etc. That just because people like nice things .
Sharpening ? Well all knives need sharpening eventually but I would rather receive a blunt knife back in the post for a service than get one back to fix after a bad attempt
For cheap knives I don't think you can beat a mora for the money but life's too short to not buy something nice
Sharpening ? Well all knives need sharpening eventually but I would rather receive a blunt knife back in the post for a service than get one back to fix after a bad attempt
For cheap knives I don't think you can beat a mora for the money but life's too short to not buy something nice
And you need more than that? Carry a pocket steel and you’ll have it sharp after 10 seconds. Not bad for a knife that costs under £20...Oh, must be quality then if it usually stay sharp enough to do a beast! Clearly my idea of quality is different from your's Gixer ?
Anyway, I'm now heading out to Primani to buy some quality clothes. Should be able to get a boot full for a tenner?
baguio
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Good grief gixer. What I need or don't need is irrelevant because I can't turn a 10 quid Mora into a quality knife because it will always be made of cheap steel that quickly loses it's edge. And, I can't use a steel anyway! I just take two knives. One of which can do several deer if needed!
Yes they are quality, they are far better quality that the majority of knives at their price bracket.
They are good enough quality for doing deer, reasonably good steel, sharpen easy to a razor sharp edge, easy to clean. Quality doesn’t have to mean expensive
That's exactly why I like my Boker Arbolito Relincho. The long thin blade, 5" rather than 4", is perfect for fiddly stuff work like cutting round the back end. It's also light, very well balanced and the edge retention is superb yet it strops to a polish very easily.
Many of the drop-point blades that are touted as stalking knives are far too deep bellied (the EKA swingblade for one). This more slender spear-like profile is far better in my view. You don't need a gut hook or unzipper with one of these. They're so controllable and easy to use.
I've said it several times before in knife threads, the Boker Arbolito range are extremely good knives for the money. They're made by a subsidiary in Argentina and the quality is exceptional at the price, as good as many a custom knife at four times the money. IMO they're better than the German-made Boker fixed blades. Proper working knives that aren't cheap and cheerful but aren't silly money either. These are about £85. Leatherwork on the sheath is exceptional too.
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Have a look at the EKA Nordic W12. Also fully back the Fallkniven F1 suggestion, that's a first class knife. You've not really specified what you mean by quality though. What's your budget and do you like traditional wood handled knives or synthetic etc? Something that can be lobbed in the dishwasher is handy.
I have thought this too. I have a curved flex 6" victorinox and a 5" curved flex f dick. They both great and the best I have used, I wish i had the from the start. Victorinox do a sheath knife but it's about £200. If they made something like the flexible boning knife but a drop point with a plastic sheath it would be a best seller
macfarlane
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Have a look at the 4inch rabbit knife.
sportingspaniels
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Have you lost 3 expensive custom made knives ?
I always put my hat on the ground and when I want to put the knife down I put it on top of the hat. You're not going to lose you hat. And no danger of cutting yourself on a knife hidden in the grass by putting your hand on it or kneeling on it.
I have a range of knives from Mora to Handmade stuff , on one of my last hunting trips someone gave me a swingblade by Outdoor Edge , which is very similar to an EKA but to my mind the handle looks better / more comfortable .. any one tried one ?
I received a victornox boning knife last week from a butcher who wants me to make him a kydex shieth for it . While ideal for someone who has been handling this kind of knife for many thousands of hours In daily work , less than ideal for someone who hasn't. Geometry and length isn't ideal, for field use and conditions for a person not very well used to such a knife
I doubt the boner cost very much so even after paying for the kydex work the chap will have a super bargain for his use .
I think that you’re on the money there Finch. I have the same knife but with antler scales and couldn’t agree more with your assessment. It’s a superb knife for the money and I would suggest fits the OP’s brief perfectly.
Tim
When I bought my Eka swingblade I compared it with the Outdoor Edge version (shop had both).
They were absolutely identical, other than the logo, and the blade steel. Eka is Sandvik 12c27, OE is AUS-8. I wouldn't know what minor differences there might be, so I chose the Eka, based on their good reputation with other knives, it being the original version and knowing nothing about Outdoor Edge.
My guess is that they both come out of the same Chinese factory. They cost the same.
Eka has since updated the handle slightly on the G3 version, adding an unnecessary lanyard loop, I've not seen one to compare with mine.
I've just seen that OE now have a very inexpensive pair of fixed knives using the same skinning and gutting blade profiles as the swingblade, the JaegerPair
I was mildly interested until I found that they are made of 420J2 steel, which is apparently the cheapest nastiest stuff, barely a blade steel at-all. I suppose you can't expect any more at £30 the pair.
Incidentally Sandvik12C27 is the same stuff as used by Mora. Maybe Eka do a better job of heat treatment than Mora, but I have no complaints with mine, which has now gralloched eight fallow, five muntjac, one roe, all including cutting the ribs from the sternum (suspended) as well as skinning them and a little butchery, though I usually use a fibrox boning knife for that.
I've not yet had to sharpen it, though will soon, only stropped it, so I call it fit for purpose. It is of course hollow ground rather than scandi like a Mora. That might also account for those who have found Mora's only adequate, or maybe aren't sharpening them properly (no, a steel is not a suitable method), just a theory.
Nope, not me, I just don't get scandi grind sharpening on wetstones. Like I say, I've flattened the stones and checked them against glass, I take my time pressing down on the bevel only - IT JUST DOESN'T WORK! I can get them sharp, just not scary (shave-the-hair-off-arm" sharplike I can with lansky and flat grind or wetstone and chisel or plane blade with an angle guide. I keep my moras for larder bone work (e.g. chopping head and feet off)
Rusty Gate
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