Nice one Freeforester, true words. It always amazes me here on the farm, I have a wide range of friends & acquaintances who visit me from time to time, & some are how can I say, politely but vehemently opposed to predation control & shooting, I take them on a tour of the farm, show them the steps I take, & spend a long time explaining the benefits it brings, show the the Hares, the songbirds, the nest boxes, the deer, the hedges & trees that I have planted over the last 50 years, I wake them up early with a breakfast on the lawn, & we listen to the dawn chorus, & not once have I had anyone leave with the same attitude that they came with, it makes it all worthwhile. Most people out there are well-meaning, & care about the environment, but are sadly misdirected by concerns with vested interests.