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baguio

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Would you be so kind as to post a link to this new requirement? Also does this mean that an aghe shouldn't accept deer from people that aren't registered?
You should also note that this 'new requirement' is dated November 2015! Not very new is it?
 
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Sharpie

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Would you be so kind as to post a link to this new requirement? Also does this mean that an aghe shouldn't accept deer from people that aren't registered?

It is not a new requirement. It has been required since 2004, if not earlier. And no, absolutely not, an AGHE may not accept deer, or anything else, in the fur or feather, from anyone who is not registered as a food business. Which, by the way, includes, as a minimum, the registration of any vehicle used to transport the stuff to them.

Are all AGHE's sufficiently scrupulous ? Mostly the ones left are.

Not able to comply ? Or got a load of dodgy deer absolutely not fit for human consumption ? Well I suppose you could sell the stuff to currently trendy "raw meat" dog and cat food suppliers, but that has not worked out well in one spectacularly bad recent example.

Study the Wild Game Guide. Entry point Wild game guidance

Direct link https://www.food.gov.uk/sites/default/files/media/document/wild-game-guide.pdf

Now there appear to be a number of (elderly ?) stalkers who have not troubled to keep up with the times or never knew much about this in the first place or simply disregarded it, or have but disagree on some sort of "principle", possibly do not even have the "Trained Hunter" qualification, will not self educate, and insist on carrying on just as they ever did. They should be ignored.

Since you asked, the very first page explains that:

The requirements intended to assure the safety of wild game supplied for
human consumption in the UK, the EU or elsewhere are set out in
Regulation (EC) 852/2004 and Regulation (EC) 853/2004 (the EU Food
Hygiene Regulations).


I do not recommend that you bother trying to understand any EU regulation yourself, unless you are a masochist with a legalistic mind.

Some further snippets, with my emphasis, if you are not minded to actually study the guide yourself:

All is perfectly clear, nothing new, and nothing onerous, quite the opposite. The "Hunter's exemption" gives us great freedoms, which may be envied by others whose countries do not allow such things.

If as a hunter, you shoot alone, as part of a shooting party or arrange shoots with/for others and supply infur/in-feather game to an AGHE... You are required to register as a food business with your Local Authority and comply with the general hygiene requirements for primary producers. This includes any vehicle you use when supplying an AGHE and your game larder, if you use it to store game before it goes to an AGHE as well as the specific provisions of Regulation 853/2004 that apply to the initial handling of wild game intended for subsequent supply to an AGHE.

If you collect in-fur/infeather game with or without your own game storage facility and transport it to an AGHE.... You are required to register with your Local Authority as a food business and comply with general hygiene requirements for primary production and associated operations (covering vehicles, game larders and collection centres). The relevant completed Trained Person documentation at the shoot must accompany the carcases when collecting from the shoot and delivering to any AGHE, with the documentation submitted to the AGHE for official inspection.

If you hunt or shoot, process and supply small quantities of game meat direct to the final consumer and/or to local retailers that directly supply game meat to the final consumer, and/or, process game meat for sale from your own retail outlet... You are required to register with your Local Authority as a food business under Regulation (EC) No. 852/2004.  You are required to comply with the general hygiene requirements;  You must have in place a food safety management procedure based on HACCP principles. Please note – the requirements are adapted where private dwelling houses or temporary/moveable premises are being used. Advice can be sought from your Local Authority during registration.

If you, either as an individual or as a member of a hunting party or shooting estate, hunt wild game solely for your own private domestic consumption or to give away to family or friends for their domestic consumption, the game is regarded as primary production for private domestic use. In this situation the game is not subject to any of the requirements of EU food safety legislation. The key point is that the game is not for sale or supply to anyone else as part of a food business operation

The supply, by the producer, of small quantities (see paragraph 16) of primary products direct to consumers or local retailers is not covered by European food hygiene legislation. Therefore, if you (whether as an individual hunter, estate or shoot) hunt wild game and supply it in-fur or infeather only in small quantities directly to the final consumer, and/or to local retailers directly supplying this game to the final consumer, the game will not be subject to the requirements of either Regulation 852/2004 or Regulation 853/2004. Regulation 178/2002 (Article 3, point 18) defines the final consumer as “the ultimate consumer of a foodstuff who will not use the food as part of any food business operation or activity”.
Small quantities is regarded as self-defining because demand for in-fur or infeather carcases from final consumers and local retailers is limited.  Local is within the supplying establishment’s own county plus the greater of either the neighbouring county or counties or 50km/30miles from the boundary of the supplying establishment’s county, but never beyond the UK except supply from Northern Ireland to the Republic of Ireland. When the supplying establishment is located in the Scottish islands, local is interpreted as anywhere within Scotland.  Direct supply to the final consumer is not restricted by what is local. An individual or an estate can supply final consumers who order from them via the internet/mail order as well as those who collect themselves. 17. However, even though such supply is exempt from the food hygiene rules, under European food law you are operating a food business1 . You will therefore be required to register with your local authority as a food business (see paragraph 43) and the game will be subject to the traceability requirements of Regulation 178/2002 (see paragraphs 45-47). Furthermore, irrespective of whether the individual or estate is a food business or not, there are duties under Regulation (EC) 178/2002 and the Food Safety Act (Food Safety (NI) Order in Northern Ireland) not to place unsafe food on the market or to mis-describe food.

Supply of in fur/in feather wild game carcases other than direct to the final consumer or local retailers 18. If you as a hunter also buy up wild game from different shoots for supply to retailers, that game even if only in small quantities will be subject to the hygiene requirements of Regulation 853/2004. This means that you cannot supply this game direct to consumers or retailers – it must go to an Approved Game Handling Establishment (AGHE). You may therefore wish 1 Under Regulation 178/2002 ‘food business’ means ‘any undertaking, whether for profit or not and whether public or private, carrying out any of the activities related to any stage of production, processing and distribution of food’. 13 to keep it separate, and identifiably so, from game that you have hunted yourself. 19. If you (whether as an individual hunter, estate or shoot) hunt wild game and sell it in-fur or in-feather either to a middleman or direct to an AGHE, you must:  register with your local authority as a food business (see paragraph 43);  meet the traceability requirements of Regulation (EC) 178/2002 (see paragraphs 45-47);  comply with the food business operator’s responsibilities under both the general hygiene requirements for primary production in Regulation 852/2004 (see paragraphs 48-60) and the specific provisions in Regulation 853/2004 for the initial handling of wild game intended for subsequent supply to an AGHE (see paragraphs 61-73);  ensure that a trained person is present when the game is shot and completes relevant documentation that must accompany the bodies of large wild game animals to an AGHE (see paragraphs 61-67).

If you are not a hunter or a primary producer you cannot buy up wild game from different hunters or shoots for supply, even if only in small quantities to retailers, without being subject to the hygiene requirements of Regulation 853/2004. This means that you cannot supply such game direct to consumers or retailers, it must go to an AGHE. If hunters or primary producers sell game to a middleman they must be confident that it will be transported to an AGHE as soon as possible. If the middleman does not consign it to an AGHE and instead consigns it directly to a retailer either in the UK or abroad, then an offence will occur, making you, the middleman and the buyer open to prosecution.

If you collect in-fur/ in-feather game, with or without your own storage facility, and transport it to an AGHE, you are operating as a food business and must:  register with your local authority as a food business (see paragraph 43);  meet the traceability requirements of Regulation (EC) 178/2002 (see paragraphs 45-47);  comply with the food business operator’s responsibilities under both the general hygiene provisions for primary production in Regulation (EC) 852/2004 (see paragraphs 48-60) and the specific provisions in Regulation (EC) 853/2004 for the initial handling of wild game intended for subsequent supply to an AGHE (see paragraphs 61-73);  ensure that the bodies of the wild game are accompanied by the required declaration by a trained person (see paragraphs 61-67) and are transported to the AGHE as soon as possible after examination by the trained person.

Direct supply of small quantities of wild game meat to the final consumer or local retailers 25. The supply, by the hunter, of small quantities of wild game meat direct to consumers or local retailers is not covered by Regulation 853/2004. Therefore, if you (whether as an individual hunter, estate or shoot) hunt 15 wild game and supply meat prepared from the game you have shot only in small quantities either direct to the final consumer or to local retailers that directly supply this game to the final consumer, you do not need to be approved as an AGHE and the game will not be subject to any of the specific rules for food of animal origin provided for in Regulation 853/2004. 26. The terms “small”, “local” and “direct supply” are interpreted in paragraph 16. However, it is the premises where the hunter prepares game meat that have to be local to the retailers that the hunter plans to supply and not the place(s) where the hunter shoots. So hunters may shoot on other people’s estates and then bring the game back to their own premises or game larder for supply to local retailers. 27. However, the supply of wild game meat is subject to the general food law requirements of Regulation 178/2002 and the food hygiene requirements of Regulation 852/2004. Therefore, if you as a hunter supply game meat, you will be regarded as a food business operator, and must meet;  the requirements for registration of food businesses (see paragraph 43),  the traceability requirements of Regulation (EC) 178/2002 (see paragraphs– 45-47); and  the general food hygiene requirements of Regulation 852/2004 including temperature controls, HACCP and hygienic transport including chilling, both for the in-fur/in-feather game you bring from the shooting area and for delivery of meat you supply to final consumers/retailers (see paragraphs 48- 57).

The exemption from Regulation 853/2004 for hunters applies only if the meat the hunter supplies to local retailers is sold by those retailers directly to the final consumer. It does not apply where the meat the hunter supplies to local retailers is then supplied to another retailer.

Retail and wholesale of wild game meat 31. The retail supply of in-fur/in-feather wild game or wild game meat is not covered by the requirements of Regulation 853/2004, except where retailers supply other retailers (i.e. wholesale) outside certain limits (see paragraph 35). Under EU food hygiene legislation, ‘retail’ includes the preparation or processing of food at the point of sale to the final consumer. 32. Therefore, if you operate a retail outlet, the premises do not need to be approved as an AGHE in order to sell in-fur or in-feather game or wild game meat, including wild game meat you have prepared yourself, to the final consumer. The quantities of wild game or wild game meat you may sell are unlimited, and may be obtained from any legitimate source, such as an AGHE, a shooting estate or a hunter. 33. Examples of retailers able to prepare and sell wild game meat without having to be approved as an AGHE are:  butchers’ shops that prepare meat for sale direct to the final consumer from infur/in-feather game supplied by local individuals and estates;  estates that have estate shops, or who operate their own stalls at farmers’ markets and/or have internet/mail order businesses, to sell meat they have prepared from game shot on the estate.  Restaurants that prepare meat for sale to the final consumer from in-fur/infeather game supplied by individuals or estates. 34. However, if you are engaged in the retail supply of wild game or wild game meat, you are operating a food business. You must therefore:  be registered as a food business with the local authority (see paragraph 43); 17  meet the traceability requirements of Regulation (EC) 178/2002 (see paragraphs 45-47) ; and  the general food hygiene requirements of Regulation 852/2004 including temperature controls and HACCP (see paragraphs 48-60)



I hope that this is crystal clear.
 
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Sharpie

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Ok, a guidance document, many thanks for the link.
Was given before.

Step outside this "guidance" at your own peril. The guidance being to guide the person into how to understand, in relatively simple terms, what the rules mean. If you are cleverer than that, and have superior knowledge, by all means deviate from it and be prepared to justify your actions if pulled up about what you have done.
 
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