You would never get more than the first hole or bump and the thing would go over...
A good sized doe/spiker would never balance on it...
Tim.243
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You would never get more than the first hole or bump and the thing would go over...
A good sized doe/spiker would never balance on it...
Tim.243
The long handles give you good lifting leverage but the design creates a problem because you are having to lift up to 50% of the load weight because of the extended wheel position...if the load position of the frame was raised and projected more forward over the top so the wheel took a larger proportion of the weight, your main effort would be involved with balance as opposed to balance and lifting the weight.
Be interesting to do a comparison for ease of use with a cart with two wheels either side of the load or a two wheels in line underneath version of single wheeled device described by Bogtrotter. Either two wheel version would only need balancing in one plane. Side by side wheels with long draw bar/handles would be easier single handed.
I am suddenly reminded of the big wheeled Fire Engine ladders like these
http://www.ukemergency.co.uk/photo/dscd0114.jpg
NFS-London Region 50ft wheeled escape ladder, WW2 - An Ajax style wheeled escape ladder - Photo Prints - 7638764 - Media Storehouse
Alan
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To pull or push? I would go with pull as you can drag a deer with a cord/rope but cant push it with that method, regarding balance 2 wheels with the weight over the axle.
How wide is important, if it is low to ground then rolling the deer on to it will be easier.
As Alan said a tarp or cargo net would act as a base, but they need to be half way tight other wise it will sag/catch on all you pass over.
The punture proof wheels out these days would be best.
Whilst I am on a nostalgia trip...anybody remember the Boy Scout trek Carts?
http://www.jshawmsc.f2s.com/trekcart.htm
note the tow ropes on the axle ends suitable for HPR dogs perhaps? (Haul Point Retrieve)
Alan
p.s prompted by the puncture proof comment!
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Bavarianbrit
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I was inspired by this thread so I put together yesterday (it took 4 hours of fiddling around), with some old bits that I had lying around. I used half of a stepladder (I took out some of the steps then discarded them, I turned one step through 180 degrees and re-riveted it to the top cross bar after shortening it to fit as the closing angle needed that done), then an old sack barrow wheel axle set with inflatable tyres, then I cut up an old trampoline net and riveted it with washers as load spreaders to the rails along all four sides.
Time will tell but the engineering looks workable for moving wild boar around.
Time will tell but the engineering looks workable for moving wild boar around.
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Well it arrived today so that is one relief.
The ebay item tracker has been great I have been able to follow its progress on a map almost day by day.
First impressions are that it is built like a tank and was very easy to put together.
One thing I changed when putting it together was I put the diagonal braces on the inside rather then outside to take the sideways pressure off the clips but I still think you would get two fallow on it easy.
Next think I will change is the r clips that hold the wheels on to a different style of clip because I hate r clips.
Over all I am happy with it and I need to come up with a quick and easy way to secure deer to it.
That's handy having a boot !!
Overlay
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looks like the one I’ve used for the past year, can’t complain about how it handles, it certainly works on a decent sized fallow buck, my one would tip it over if you put two bucks on it makes it may be a bit top heavy for anything over a 100 yd run
good luck with it, it makes live easier
cheers
phil
Sheamus
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Just a bit of advice Pete, you may have already thought of it.. But anyway if I were you get a cheap cargo net or scrounge a piece off a skip hire firm and cover the frame of the cart with it.
Secure it onto the frame with good quality strong string.. Avoid zip ties because they`ll loose you down in time`s of need and that come`s from my experience.
Oh the bars are better positioned on the outside, you can fit more of a load on
Secure it onto the frame with good quality strong string.. Avoid zip ties because they`ll loose you down in time`s of need and that come`s from my experience.
Oh the bars are better positioned on the outside, you can fit more of a load on
devon deer stalker
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That looks like the same one bought years ago, mine uses wing nuts instead of the pins you have.
I use bungee cords to strap on the deer.
On the handle that you pull (it's easier to pull than push!) I strapped on some plumbing insulation, makes it less hard on your hands.
I will try what Shamus has suggested and get some netting.
Cheers
Richard
I use bungee cords to strap on the deer.
On the handle that you pull (it's easier to pull than push!) I strapped on some plumbing insulation, makes it less hard on your hands.
I will try what Shamus has suggested and get some netting.
Cheers
Richard
Overlay
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Hi pete
yes I did, also replaced the bolts with pins and the two side bars in addition on all the pins I have fixed them with ping wire onto the frame and when you pull them off you can’t lose em in the grass, you can just leave em dangling until you need to fix it up
i have put insul tube wrapped in gaffa tape around the handle and this has bulked it out for a better and softer grip
For securing I have a bungee fixed one end on the frame ( these also. Keep it together when not in used middle and near the bottom and the head end I use my deer drag wire round under the chin and tie it off to the top bar - to date not one has shifted or rolled off due to rough going or driver error
phil
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devon deer stalker
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And yes you can get a red stag on it!
All on my own.
Cheers
Richard
Highlandsjohn
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Big stags with you Richard! john
deerstalker.308
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Intrigued to know how you get the deer into the cart in the first place? I use forestry commission carcass trays for reds, and have to lay the tray next to the beast and roll the carcass over and into the sled, I can't imagine its easy getting them into these trolleys?
Ill stick to my quad bike and tray I think....
devon deer stalker
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Sorry, it's an old thread, but @Uncle Norm reminded me of red extraction's.
@deerstalker.308 it's really not that difficult getting a hind/stag onto the trolley, even on your own, pull the shoulders on first, then tip the cart up, so head is facing down, give it a pull and its loaded, attach with bungee cords.
It has its limitations, but is great for where I stalk, ask @big ears who used it with me last week to extract a hind where the farmer couldn't get to it with his quad even in 4 wheel drive.
Its one of the best things I have ever bought.
@Pete6.5 and @philip how are you getting on with yours?
Cheers
Richard
the_greenman
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I made a cart recently using an old sack barrow. I replaced the wheels with 16" wheelbarrow ones fitted to a single piece of marine stainless steel rod as the axle. So far it's made hauling fallow out of woods much easier. The foldover extending handle was fitted to the back end for length and a spare carpet door strip used as slats. It folds down sufficiently to fit into the truck. A strap just holds to deer in place.
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big ears
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As @devon deer stalker says it does work. The easy bit is getting the deer on the trolley, pulling them out of a Devon valley is the hard bit
It was working fine and it fitted nicely in the Land Rover. Then I took on the management of more ground and ended up getting a quad. But if you are the sort of person that only shoots one or two a trip and has to travel a long way and don't want to tow a quad it was great it handled fallow bucks easily and made it a lot less effort than dragging. I was debating selling it but it was a pain to import and no one is selling them over here so I think it is one of those things I would regret selling when it's gone.
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