£50 + VAT (which I claimed back).
Dr refused to complete medical form.
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If you're a member of BASC, this might be worth looking into: BASC medical panels
National average is purportedly £100 from GP, but some asking over £200, with many GP insisting on cash (note to Tax Inspector!!)
I believe BASC have an agreement with ShootCert which gives a £5 discount but there are cheaper providers out there. Just be careful as some Police forces will not accept proforma from some of them due to concerns over the quality / integrity of the submissions.
I believe BASC have an agreement with ShootCert which gives a £5 discount but there are cheaper providers out there. Just be careful as some Police forces will not accept proforma from some of them due to concerns over the quality / integrity of the submissions.
The police will contact your registered GP after a successful application and request the marker is added to your records, as per the Home Office firearms guide for chief constables, your GP may or may not add the marker obviously in your case they did
. It’s this lack of a contractual obligation by GPs to add the marker that the GP report is required at every renewal.Did you use Medcert because it was cheaper than your GP or because your GP did not want to do the report?
is all in this document
www.gov.uk
2.44 Where the proforma has been provided by an independent doctor instead of the applicant’s GP, the police must ensure that the request to place the firearms marker following grant is sent to the applicant’s GP, and not to the independent doctor. This is because only the GP will have access to the GP IT patient record to place the firearm marker.
Firearms licensing: statutory guidance for police
How police chiefs should carry out checks when assessing someone's suitability to own firearms or become a registered firearms dealer.
2.44 Where the proforma has been provided by an independent doctor instead of the applicant’s GP, the police must ensure that the request to place the firearms marker following grant is sent to the applicant’s GP, and not to the independent doctor. This is because only the GP will have access to the GP IT patient record to place the firearm marker.
Cheaper. GP wanted £220 blackmail feeThe police will contact your registered GP after a successful application and request the marker is added to your records, as per the Home Office firearms guide for chief constables, your GP may or may not add the marker obviously in your case they did
Did you use Medcert because it was cheaper than your GP or because your GP did not want to do the report?
one should never assume anything
. too many people on this island for anyone to really give a tossyep absolutely. If the GP surgery is ripping you off then get a cheaper 3rd party
Assume what? A firearms marker has been added? What's the relevance of the amount of people on this island?.one should never assume anything
That originally was the intent of the scheme, but when the Statutory Guidance to Chief Police Officers on Firearms licensing appeared in 2021 it included a statement that applicants for first grant AND renewals would require the completion of a medical proforma
Medical information required by the police
2.30 When a person applies for a firearm or shotgun certificate or to be registered as a firearms dealer, the applicant will ask their GP, or a suitably qualified GMC-registered doctor, to provide information to the police which will confirm whether or not the applicant is or has been diagnosed or treated for any relevant medical condition which could affect their ability to possess a firearm safely. A medical proforma to be used for this purpose is part of the firearms application form and should be detached by the applicant and passed by them to the doctor for completion. This process is also to be used for the renewal of certificates.Cheers
Bruce
First grant l understand and the renewal of the ones that got granted before the medical markers,but once you have the marker surely that should be the end of it.Whilst they are at it they can start with 10 year licensing.
However as it is not contractual for the applicants registered GP to engage in the process and therefore no marker may be placed on your medical records the FEO has no way of knowing who does and who does not have the marker and without 100% compliance by the GPs to engage in the process they want GP reports at renewal and no ten year certificate.
For some, many? it’s nothing more than a one day in five year medical report, that covers the chief constables backside and looks good from the publics point of view, if they actual care about it anyway.
Possibly if the truth of how messed up the process is was out we might have a far worst process.
It always reminds me of the children’s story the emperor’s new cloths.
any idea what the certain qualifying criteria are? or where they state them? We really should not just lay down and accept these sort of statements.
BASC may like to look at it
Earlier in the week, BASC wrote to the force’s Chief Constable to challenge its announcement that paper applications would no longer be accepted, on the grounds that the decision would have been illegal and discriminatory
BASC welcomes West Mercia decision to keep paper applications
BASC has welcomed clarification from West Mercia Police that paper submissions for certificate applications will continue to be accepted.
basc.org.uk
@Conor O'Gorman
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Stalker62
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Provide you submit your application on the correct forms, with your payment and your photograph - the Police have to process it.
They may not like it.
They may prefer you to submit on-line (in which case come up with a system which is fit for purpose), but they have to process applications submitted as above. (BASC v West Mercia).
BTW
What do I mean by 'fit for purpose"?
Just something as simple as allowing you to 'save', the online form, and come back to it.
If you have several firearms it is a nightmare. Getting 'timed out'. Insufficient space on the online forms for the number of firearms you possess.
It must be a 'doable' fix.
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I’ll post a screenshot again, when I restart the process… there didn’t appear to be their acceptable inclusions at the time of viewing.. they simply stated paper applications would be rejected…any idea what the certain qualifying criteria are? or where they state them? We really should not just lay down and accept these sort of statements.
BASC may like to look at it
Earlier in the week, BASC wrote to the force’s Chief Constable to challenge its announcement that paper applications would no longer be accepted, on the grounds that the decision would have been illegal and discriminatory
BASC welcomes West Mercia decision to keep paper applications
BASC has welcomed clarification from West Mercia Police that paper submissions for certificate applications will continue to be accepted.
@Conor O'Gorman
The police do not make the law only enforce it, if you like rocking the boat, I would apply using the valid paper forms and include the basc article printed out.
No, I meant dont assume that the GP will notify the police with any new relevant medical information. I can imagine their work load is very heavy especially in this growing population and It could easily be missed.
Also dont assume the doctors computer software has the ability to have a firearms flag marker. It might not be very obvious for the GP to see??
So basically it's all a waste of time.I thought ( wrongly) that some sort of programme automatically flagged up certain medical conditions and then alerted the police.I didn't realise it flagged up to the Dr and they had to inform them .Wouldn't trust my Dr to do anything,the surgery are completely useless.
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