I've eaten fox. Wasn't as bad as all the hear-sayers would have you believe
Dumping of shot pheasants
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So birds are killed for...........peoples amusement sport joy money etc insert any description you like, but if I was to look at it dispassionately , it would be killing for killings sake, but I don't want to judge others, nor would I want to provide the anti's with a gilt edged opportunity, it just sits very uneasilywith me. As I child I was taught to eat what you shoot, & yes I have eaten some very interesting dishes, Skylark, Swallow, Moorhen, Lapwings & frogs, plus a few more that I don't want to mention. And shame on me. I am older & wiser.
I didn't say I agree with it, nor that it sits easily with me either, but yes that is the reason why so many game birds are killed. For enjoyment. Those that participate in shooting reared birds - including me - should simply accept that. Otherwise they should stop doing shooting them.
With perhaps 40% returns, rearing pheasants and partridge is hardly an efficient way to generate food.
Does it? I'm very much involved in field sports. I don't think that the deer I shoot have much choice about being involved though.
field sports it may be labelled, however I would suggest you are a hunter, out hunting the deer for food and the deer has opportunity to avoid/escape you and was born free.
Game shooting is all about the sport from start to finish, with no guarantee the game will end up as food those that participate are not what I would call hunts men or women.
enfieldspares
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But WG the excuse used to justify these big bags THAT WHAT IS SHOT IS EATEN has then driven this ridiculous BASC and British Game Alliance co-signed voluntary lead shot ban.
I've no issue per se with big bags and that's fine....UNTIL IN SEEKING TO DEFEND THEM THE ADVOCATES OF SUCH SEEK TO BAN HOW I DO WHAT I DO which is use lead shot in my shotgun cartridges.
I see it as little far removed from the houndsports lobby folk that sought to defend fox hunting simply and solely by lurid tales of shot foxes with legs blown off and dying from gangrene and/or the dangers of men out at night with lamps and high powered rifles.
Didn't Plummer in his Lurcher & Terrier books say that he sold an awful lot of fox carcases to the Chinese community. I once went out with a Vietnamese girl, an English girl came up to her in a hostile manner & said, Urgh you Vietnamese people, you eat dogs & cats, to which she replied, yes that's right, cooked well, they're delicious!
glasshalffull
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Ah now that's reminded me. Took a chap out lamping while ago, at a time when you used styrene and a piece of glass as your U-caller, anyway he owned a Chinese restaurant but wasn't Chinese he was Vietnamese, at the time nobody would have had a Vietnamese carryout here anyway. We called in a beautiful big dog fox for V, that's what he called himself, and he shoots it with the .22 and was over the moon and wanted to keep said fox. Few weeks later he was asked what he did with the fox, we genuinely thought he was getting it stuffed, he said half still in freezer, true story.
enfieldspares
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Ah! Yes. I remember doing that too.
baguio
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What would you call someone who partakes in both deer stalking and game shooting? Asking for a friend obviously!
StephenToast
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Wow. Interesting. Where was that?
Bo Diddley
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You should write a few articles on your life for the EDP, sounds like you write a book to be honest. Very interesting!
jim_allen_uk
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It’s the same as the majority of stalkers who go after stags in the highland, you don’t see them taking a red home.
Since 50% of game shot in the UK is exported to the EU you should really be directing your ire at the European Chemicals Agency and their original proposal to ban lead sold and used in hunting, sports shooting and other outdoor shooting.
This was, after all, a measure proposed in part for health reasons: "The proposed restriction would protect the children of households that very frequently eat game meat. For example, it is assumed that phasing out the use of lead in large-calibre bullets and gunshot could avoid IQ loss in up to 7,000 children a year. The total costs of the restriction to society range from €260 million to €10.5 billion over 20 years depending on the sector affected and the type of restriction imposed."
Without a move towards replacing lead shot that whole market could become unavailable.
The lead ban from Europe will likely affect sport shooting (i.e. clay pigeon) as well: European Federation for Hunting and Conservation Lead Survey. Talking to the instructor at my local clay ground, they are preparing to replace all their stocks of lead shot with steel. Bizarrely, other clay grounds already ban the use of game cartridges and steel shot!
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Smellydog
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I once went out with a cross eyed girl.
It didn't work out.
We could never see eye to eye and I even suspected she was seeing someone on the side too!
Bequia, Windward Isles, Carribean. The man who harpooned it was in his eighties, a real old mariner & survivor of a bygone age, had broken nearly every bone in his body doing battle with the whales. The whole population of the island turned up on this small hill to watch.You could just about make out this longboat being towed one way then another, through some pretty rough seas, for about 7 hours before they beached it, then the process of filleting it, first the blubber then the red meat, huge slabs carted off on their shoulders, if a tiny scrap floated off through the red waves someone would swim out & throw it back to the crowd on the beach. Not a single scrap was wasted, every one had food & oil for cooking, that seven ton Humpback was treated with reverence & respect. We got to eat some, tasted of fillet steak & smelt of bbqued lobster or shrimp, the most singular life changing spiritual food I ever ate, if I told you the rest of the story, you would probably call me mad. So I won't.
Apologies for going off thread.
Apologies for going off thread.
Bequia, Windward Isles, Carribean. The man who harpooned it was in his eighties, a real old mariner & survivor of a bygone age, had broken nearly every bone in his body doing battle with the whales. The whole population of the island turned up on this small hill to watch.You could just about make out this longboat being towed one way then another, through some pretty rough seas, for about 7 hours before they beached it, then the process of filleting it, first the blubber then the red meat, huge slabs carted off on their shoulders, if a tiny scrap floated off through the red waves someone would swim out & throw it back to the crowd on the beach. Not a single scrap was wasted, every one had food & oil for cooking, that seven ton Humpback was treated with reverence & respect. We got to eat some, tasted of fillet steak & smelt of bbqued lobster or shrimp, the most singular life changing spiritual food I ever ate, if I told you the rest of the story, you would probably call me mad. So I won't. Nor will I ever eat whale again.
Apologies for going off thread.
If they want to purchase the carcass they can, if not it goes to the game dealer.
jim_allen_uk
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Same as the majority of deer are killed for enjoyment. Anyone who has paid for a stalk and not taken the deer home to eat has killed that deer for enjoyment
jim_allen_uk
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And how many do? Not many I’m guessing
Well I've never resorted to eating one, but, as with pheasants, I do always wait until they've landed before I shoot. It's the only hope I've got of hitting them!
