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Taff said:
He was to blame, along with the thief, who is stupid enough to leave a gun unsecured in a unattended vehicle obviously within sight of anyone passing by.
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Morkai said:
Did they say why the retrieval of the shotgun lead to the charges/prosecution being dropped?
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No, they didn’t and I didn’t care to ask, it was good enough for me!

The shotgun was in it’s case, hidden under the dog’s blanket, in a locked car, behind blacked windows, parked together with a dozen of other hunters’ cars. I’m not sure I’d call that stupidity, but it sure wasn’t enough care to avoid what happened. I shared the experience for others to avoid it hopefully, glad you’re above it and no such thing could happen to you!
 
csl said:
Good news! 👍

Back in the day, we used to put the shotguns in a pile (in cases) in the corner of the pub and then played pool until past 2300! Sadly this is no more... 😟
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before now I have left a rifle or shotgun behind the bar in my local, usually as I was just out shooting on their land.
 
Out of curiosity, how did the thief get into the boot? And was the vehicle not alarmed?

I am thinking that someone may have followed the OP from the shoot, I.e. it wasn't an opportunistic crime?
 
MarinePMI said:
While I'm glad the OP got his shotgun back and no charges were actuated against him, I'm still trying to wrap my head around how everyone is glad he didn't get charged with a crime, because someone else committed a crime.

:cuckoo:
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I understand your logic and I agree to a degree but with firearms comes a duty of care and that’s the issue the police would be pursuing
 
BTW, personally, I would never leave a firearm in the car, regardless of legalities - I'd just wouldn't be relaxed. But most of my shooting friends do. I am not criticising them, just saying that it's not something that I would personally do.
 
markj1 said:
Out of curiosity, how did the thief get into the boot? And was the vehicle not alarmed?

I am thinking that someone may have followed the OP from the shoot, I.e. it wasn't an opportunistic crime?
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No alarm… They forced the lock. We were thinking the same, but it was a crew that was stealing from cars with the same “signature “ for the last month
 
Jackal8 said:
No, however “due care” for the firearm can be understood differently. The obligation is to keep the firearm away from sight of the public (except when hunting).
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Unfortunately for your good self it was a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time happens to most of us at some point in life at least your property was returned.
 
bobt said:
before now I have left a rifle or shotgun behind the bar in my local, usually as I was just out shooting on their land.
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We used to stack our shotguns in the corner behind the dining table in the pub leaving my 8 year old nipper in charge whilst we went to the bar to buy drinks.
 
timbrayford said:
We used to stack our shotguns in the corner behind the dining table in the pub leaving my 8 year old nipper in charge whilst we went to the bar to buy drinks.
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I would say current uk law does not entirely prevent that now. Just dodgy on the 8yr old unless they hold a sgc.
Whether the pub would be OK with it is a different matter, but pretty sure there are still pubs out there in rural communities who would be happy to have the trade.
 
I know of a policeman that left his pistol above his fire in the chimney breast , didn’t tell his wife who lit the fire ….

You can imagine the rest
 
I used to hate the pre-shoot breakfast in the local pub and the roast pork evening meal afterwards for that very reason. You go in and you look like folks just about to shoot or just having shot. But there is an answer! Most if not all modern cars will have under the rear seat two fixed in "U" shackle eyes. These are for fixing kiddie seats. On hatchback cars you can see them of you lower the rear seat back to access the rear boot space from inside the car.

I bought an American ammunition box for either shells or bagged charges. It takes, just, my 30" barrel side by side in a leg of mutton case. Under my drill press it went and two "U" shackles installed in the two narrow sides and two the same "U" shackle eyes in the lid. I then run a chain through all of them and padlock this to the shackle eye for the kiddie seat with padlocks securing chain to the eyes at either side so that the lid cannot be taken off.

The whole thing is painted in gloss yellow paint just like the same yellow paint on the "sharps bin" and "bio hazard waste" at your GP's. I intend when I can source them to then stick a bio-hazard sticker on the lid. Such that anyone that does see it will think I am the fellow that goes round pubs, cafes, hotels or GP surgeries and etc.. emptying out the tampax and/or fouled dressing bins and leave well alone.
 
enfieldspares said:
I used to hate the pre-shoot breakfast in the local pub and the roast pork evening meal afterwards for that very reason. You go in and you look like folks just about to shoot or just having shot. But there is an answer! Most if not all modern cars will have under the rear seat two fixed in "U" shackle eyes. These are for fixing kiddie seats. On hatchback cars you can see them of you lower the rear seat back to access the rear boot space from inside the car.

I bought an American ammunition box for either shells or bagged charges. It takes, just, my 30" barrel side by side in a leg of mutton case. Under my drill press it went and two "U" shackles installed in the two narrow sides and two the same "U" shackle eyes in the lid. I then run a chain through all of them and padlock this to the shackle eye for the kiddie seat with padlocks securing chain to the eyes at either side so that the lid cannot be taken off.

The whole thing is painted in gloss yellow paint just like the same yellow paint on the "sharps bin" and "bio hazard waste" at your GP's. I intend when I can source them to then stick a bio-hazard sticker on the lid. Such that anyone that does see it will think I am the fellow that goes round pubs, cafes, hotels or GP surgeries and etc.. emptying out the tampax and/or fouled dressing bins and leave well alone.
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Bio-hazard waste is very attractive to junkies, but good idea 👍
 
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