Hi Guesty Do some research on the Flir thermal spotter. If you like what you see send me a message cos I have one to sell in excellent condition at a VERY good price.
Jerry
Entry level thermal spotter and prices?
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Jerry
To be honest Flir models tend to be very poor in comparison to equivalent priced Pulsar models, the Pulsars are vastly better all-round for the price.
I had the opportunity to try a quantum lite XQ30V and a helion XQ28F (so same field of view and magnification) side by side last week and the Helion was miles better.
If you can afford it, get the Helion XQ38F, and if you can't - keep saving, sell a kidney, put the wife on the streets or whatever it takes to get one.
Cheers
Bruce
If you can afford it, get the Helion XQ38F, and if you can't - keep saving, sell a kidney, put the wife on the streets or whatever it takes to get one.
Cheers
Bruce
Depending on the ambient weather conditions then a squirrel at 260 yds should be no issue at all. Using a thermal for squirrel control is a complete game changer. Provisos are, best early am before sun gets up and warms up branches for longer range detection. If two of you then at closer ranges absolutely lethal, esp when you have squirrels in ivy covered trees and a shot gun then comes into play. Old a cold frosty am you will see squirrels moving at silly ranges both on the ground and in the trees.
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Erik Hamburger
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Just a reality check. My advise is that it is not possible to shoot a grey squirrel from a tree at 260 Yards. Not even if there is a backstop behind that tree. 60 Yards would be a challenge for most hunters, even if shooting prone using a bipod, but 260 yards? Most people -including myself- struggle to achieve a sub 2-3" Group at 100 yards under range conditions...
I don't think Cyres was planning to SHOOT a squirrel at 260 yards, but rather be able to SPOT it with the thermal at 260 yards.
I can confirm that spotting squirrels at 260 yards with the right thermal is not difficult.
Cheers
Bruce
I can confirm that spotting squirrels at 260 yards with the right thermal is not difficult.
Cheers
Bruce
Please don't worry. This shooting is not taking place from a stick in the middle of a field with a heavy recoiling rifle (although my stalking rifles will happily shoot much better than 3" under range conditions)
The tree in question is a huge oak in the middle of a valley on my own land. I shoot from atop a massive hill 45deg down in to the tree which has an even larger hill behind it. Visibility is very good and shots would be taken on flat calm days. I have no doubt that the shots taken are far safer than many shots which I bet people take.
Accuracy wise, I am anal about it. Shots are taken from fully supported rests both front and back. The rifle shoots happily in the 3's on calm days and from the sounds of it, will hold better groups at 300yds than you do at 100yds. Your level of accuracy sounds well enough for shooting deer. Mine is good enough to shoot squirrels at 250. It is all relative. For example, I could shoot a deer at 400yds if I wanted but I wouldn't, even under the calmest of conditions. I don't need to.
Squirrels on the other hand are a blight and this is both a fun and effective way of dealing with them.
Onwards.
Well, my XQ38F just arrived and after a quick squint through it in the garden in default settings I am pretty impressed. I could easily see hidden heat sources in trees 200 yards away such as birds, and can focus the objective lens to sharply see non hot detail such as branches.
I realise there must be a whole lot more to it than that, but so far I'm happy.
I realise there must be a whole lot more to it than that, but so far I'm happy.
You'll never go without one now mate!
Of course its possible! Just because you struggle to shoot well it doesn't mean all others do!
I don't think there is anyone at our club who struggles for a 2-3" group at 100 yards, most regulars shoot an inch or under at that range, also have a search for the black dot of doom thread to see what field rifles under field conditions are capable of!
Taken them to well over 200, I'd shoot further but that means pointing the rifle into the sky, there rarely on the ground here!
kenbro
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I too would be horrified if I couldn’t shoot a sub 3 foot group @300!
Sorry,Ken.
Most of our rounds are one on one at a range effort, I have an aqaintance who could group the Marlin 45/70 Government around an inch & half at 300, we are regularly nailing fox at night on known & ranged properties at 350/400 with more appropriate stuff. Alan (Sir Slots A Lot) has you tubes up doing crows & bunnies at extended ranges, (500 plus)
Erik Hamburger
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So the words 'shooting' 'reducing' and 'shot' actually just refer to 'spotting' with a thermal imager at 260 Yards? Hmm. Oh wait a minute...Actually the Gent has now confirmed himself he SHOOTS squirrels at 260 Yards with a CF rifle out of a tree (see his own reply) - so I surrender....an admirable demonstration of marksmanship indeed!
`What heat signals does your XQ30V spot 1000m away ?
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